Tuesday, March 04, 2008
Posted by:
Kevin McCullough
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9:10 AM
 Whether I'm related to them or not... I'm of mind to think that the writer of this story is not quoting Alec accurately or is not relaying the full context of Alec's statements. Alec is far removed from anything resembling a conservative Christian, though in a close up conversation with him I found him to be reasonable, quite nice, and one thing for certain - a guy who has a definite fondness for his baby brother Stephen. Stephen has certainly shown much concern and loyalty to Alec through some very hard days of recent (whole screaming at his daughter on the answering machine thing) and on the day that they were in studio with me - Alec was picking Stephen up to go attend Stephen's daughter's Christmas dance recital. They certainly have a wide difference of opinion in the Baldwin family. Stephen has on two occasions hi-jacked me by springing first Billy and then Alec on me in an unsuspecting circumstance - but one thing remained constant on both occasions - both Billy and Alec engaged, listened, and were amazingly gracious. It's my own opinion that PinkNews is more like yellow journalism and is attempting to sow strife and enmity between brothers - that people behind the scenes would have a much more difficult time seeing... Just my thoughts anyway...
His brothers don't understand his conversion, but they respect his choices. As a family, they try to be supportive of one another and to not directly embarrass one another in the press. Occasionally, they fail at this obligation and then they try to forgive one another.
So, I find it unlikely that Alec knowingly made this comment about Stephen, but I'm doubting Stephen is going to change his attitude toward Alec if he did. It sounds like they talk, agree to disagree, and agree not to trash each other in the press because, hey, that's their family dynamic. Seems like a pretty good way of dealing with what must be a fairly dysfunctional group of people. |
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Anyone who takes favorable company with the likes of you, Kevin, is a hater.
As I said in my response to your latest anti-gay column - I find it ironic that you are adamantly opposed to assisted suicide, as you have assisted in a number of gay teen suicides in your career as a meanspirited homophobe.
This is irrefutable fact. You have helped cause gay teenagers to kill themselves.
That is the definition of a hater.
Of course, since you aren't really a "man", you won't have the courage to respond and my comment will probably be removed - but the next time you look at your children, please think about the parent's of a gay teen you helped drive to suicide with your hatred - and pass that message on to "Billy" the next time he joins Alec for one of his Neices dance recitals. |
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If two brothers are having a disagreement, it's really none of your business and you should butt out. |
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Allen wrote:
Kevin: "This is irrefutable fact. You have helped cause gay teenagers to kill themselves."
Dude. You need some serious mental help. Don't blame Kevin because your HOMO son committed suicide.
And BTW: Those of us who oppose homos are not haters....we just think your gay lifestyle is immoral. Kettle, meet pot!
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Thank you for clearly demonstrating my point.
And teh next time you a parent greiving the loss of their child, consider the fact that you are responsible for inflicting such greif in your own life with your bigotry.
You have blood on your hands.
Kettle meet black. |
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Who are you so angry at?
You know its not even logical to argue that telling someone who really, really, really - deep down in their heart (they might even think they were born that way) - wants to play with fire, to not do so - is in someone their fault if they then set fire to their house and burn it down.
Allen why do non-religious, very scientific studies demonstrate that more than 80% of homosexual males admit to having been molested, touched inappropriately, or indoctrinated into homosexual behavior BEFORE choosing on their own to go act on it?
I've contacts presently with at least a dozen men who have been at one time or are now active homosexuals - and its all twelve that assert molestation began the activity in their own life.
Biologically speaking the body argues against male intercourse, isn't possible that the brain does too, and the emotions?
Isn't it possible that young men (who you claim are committing suicide by words of others) are actually dealing with the torment of their own thinking knowing that something doesn't add up?
Wouldn't it be a good thing for Psychologists to again begin to treat symptoms of abuse, molestation, and other types of emotional pain that cause people to be in such a state where they do exchange the natural for the unnatural?
I do agree with you Allen, homosexual youth - males particularly are committing suicide at a rate far higher than other youth their age. But it has nothing to do with people who are saying, "that's dangerous, let's talk about why you feel those things, and let's see if there is a moral plan for your life, who are, and why you're here."
Do we let young toddlers grab hot pans off the stove? Do we let children play in the street? Do we let teens stay out all night with no accountability? Yeah - there are parents who do all those things, but it doesn't mean that the parents who don't - are bad parents.
In fact the opposite is in fact THE truth. |
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Since you are writing about this, why don't you ask Stephen his perception of what Alec meant?
Personally, I think Alec said what he said (I agree with your wife), but whether or not he meant it like it sounded is another thing. I think Stephen is mature in his Christian faith enough to know that Alec is a slave to sin and needs Jesus. |
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[I haven't read the previous post(s) to which Allen alludes.]
Homosexual teenagers and young adults generally do not commit suicide because of the words of strangers.
Often it is because of internal struggles with their moral conscience and their biological conscience. And it may be because of careless and truly hateful words of those around them, their peers and their family members.
When the issue of the homosexuality of a family member hits home, sometimes family members may over-react. There are ways of expressing disappointment and disapproval, while at the same time, expressing support and love for the teen.
As far as teenaged peers go, we know that diplomacy is not their strong point and they may not know the impact of their first reaction to "the news".
So in the sad wake of a teen suicide, one has to look closer to home for answers that may not come.
It is not because a stranger may have pointed out some uncomfortable truths about morality and human biology. |
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The two boys that I have known who committed suicide did so supposedly because their girl-friends broke up with them. No one in their right minds would blame the girlfriends. One was 13 and the other was 16. But they both came from homes where the father was gone. I am grieving as we speak but I am not blaming anyone for what has happened. Your anger seems contrived and I believe you think you have found a way to blame believers in biblical morality. I think you hate believers in biblical morality. |
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But do not attempt to manipulate me or anyone else by claiming to try and have a "dialogue" on the subject. You are not interested in the lives of homosexuals. You are disgusted by them and the way they engage in sexual activity - so much so that it has driven you to an almost feverish obsession.
My response clearly made you uncomfortable, as it should have. You have helped facilitate the suicides of young teenagers. Gay people cannot change their sexuality. This is a lie. Gay teenagers don't need your proclamations of morality, your false information about their psychology, lies about a “molestation” factor, nor do they need to be "protected" from their human nature.
They need love, strong guidance, and acceptance.
Your mean-spirited vitriol is an affront to this, and I for one will never respect a man who makes a career out of telling people they are abnormal because you are disgusted by their bedroom practices. You ridicule gay people, particularly lesbians, on a regular basis.
I doubt very much that you have ever spent one second of your life attending a counseling session with young gay teenagers or providing comfort to the parents of those who sadly took their lives because they were continued targets of bigotry.
Your hatred and ignorance makes you less of a man, Kevin. It has nothing to do with your sexual orientation. Again, your attempts at manipulation are meager at best.
I have been in a monogamous, committed relationship for over 14 years, and my love for my partner is just as deep, just as strong, and just as important as any you will ever know in your lifetime.
So if you're wondering who I am angry at, take a good hard look in the mirror. You have helped inflict misery on people, and as long as I have a voice I will do everything I can to undermine your attempts to marginalize gay people and facilitate the deaths of gay youth. |
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i have heard that stephen baldwin has a mild case of down syndrome. poor guy. it's quite obvious that he suffers from some sort of chromosomal dysfunction, but, still, i am sure he doesn't mean anything by it. i mean, who am i to judge the retarded, right? ha ha. well, anywayzzz, i hope some day modern medicine will develop ways to lengthen arms and create deeper eye pockets. |
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