Saturday, October 25, 2008
Posted by:
Kevin McCullough
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7:05 PM
I have had increasing discussions with all sorts of liberals in recent weeks regarding the policies, beliefs, and ideas of Barack Obama. Nearly all of them ending by those on the other end - denying reality, and choosing delusion and self-induced deception over fact. I was the first national pundit to predict that Barack Obama would be in the position he is now in. In fact when I did predict it... oh so long ago... I gave five indicators of why and how it could happen. I also said at the time that I wished I would get it wrong... But I didn't... In recent weeks I've authored a series of serious columns that have addressed some of the most disturbing elements of Obama's nature, his decision making, his political expediency and his shrewd sense of timing. They have also openly exposed the facts about Obama's political pragmatism and demonstrated his complete lack of conscience on a host of issues. This coming Sunday, my syndicated column will deal with the most damndable element to date about Obama's plan and platform... It will be racial... (not racist). It will be fact... (not spin). And it will be the most controversial column written concerning Barack Obama's presidency - should he be elected. If you know an African-American who is caught up in the "Obama as Jesus" phenomenon, then direct them back here Sunday on Townhall. It may be history's last chance to not plunge American black communities into further social challenge, social disparity, and unjust inequality.
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Thank you,Wish you luck on your artical. Hope it touches someone. People need to wake up and smell the coffee. Obama is not the greatest thing since sliced bread and people are going to find this out. I just hope it is not to late. |
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I absolutley agree with you and have said this very thing in some of my comments on a various blogs. Our Black Americans do not realize the damage they will be doing to themselves as a people by supporting this man. They do not realize, or completely dismiss, the harm that his socialist ideas will do to all Americans, but especially their own. It is so incredibly disheartening to realize that for many Black Americans, Obama needs only one qualification: He is Black, and the fact that he speaks well is an added bonus. Howard Stern tested this truth by randomly stopping people on the streets in Harlem, and everyone of them supported Obama and none of them knew a single one of his positions. |
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When one really looks into Obamas friends and associates, and see what they believe and how all this leds to socalism. It is indeed scarey. Obama lost me on his stand on abortion, but the fact he can not tell the truth about Wright,Ayres,Rezko,Rashid Khalidi,Nadhami Auchi and ACORN is a problem. This problem should have been vetted by the media, but they have chosen to look past anything that might not look good. Our only choice as a voter, which is our right as a US ctizen. But be an informed voter, that is our duty. |
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KMC is a known hack on this site. He is totally biased and now we can see he is a racist as well. The "black Jesus"? COME ON. Scare the little minions over to the neo-Nazi groups, why don't you? I hear their recruitment is UP these days, thanks to Palin and McCain.
This is shameless pandering to the most base elements of our society. KMC, watch out for the Karmic backlash on this one. |
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the only thing that's sick about this article is the fact that you equate truth with illness when the one that's ill is you. You might realize more and more that your mind does not particularly track with that of peoples in this country who have managed not to get controlled by the Obama Sickness. Warning you are in for a rude awakening. You think this man's color transcends, the black people are voting skin color and there is no talk of racism where they are concerned. That man is exploiting his race he plays to the blacks who only notice that his skin is black but this is a while man in sheeps clothing. make of it what you want but...yes look at farrakahns speech he said Mr. Obama was the black christ... take it like a grown up. Karmic backlash will befall those who beliee this folly. |
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...as are millions of others regardless of creed or color. That's why he inspires actual diversity at his rallies. People feel hope and change when he speaks. They actually chant "USA" at his rallies. He doesn't speak of division nor demonize with threats.
Too bad that's what the GOP has been doing: excluding all who don't fit into their Christian fundy mold. Great election strategy: tell Americans they're traitors socialists racists terrorists baby killers for voting Obama. You can see it's working.
The only race riot will be from the white nutters with guns who occupy the asylum of Townhall and all those other "pro-America" places in America. |
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Explain this to me. Why do 95% of Black Americans vote Obama, and the White vote is split? You want to see racism and hate? I see it more in Black America than ANYWHERE else in this Country! Give me a break. |
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I also read your filth, the pack of lies you guys print to feel justified at defending your presidential candidate. the Presidency does not lend itself for on the job training..."Joe Biden" that's before he drank the "it's convenient Kool Aid" |
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Explain to me how White people are going to riot. Yeah, us White folk sure like to march with our guns... are you on crack? Democrats are too stupid to battle issues with words, they resort to violence. |
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Black and white and brown people than you give us credit for.
How many of those white folks that are voting for McCain do you think are signing up with the Neo-Nazis white supremacists? Seems their recruitment is doubling. You want to talk about racism then you go to those groups and talk to THEM.
http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2008-10-20-hategroups_N .htm
and here's a fun article about Sean Hannity, who pals around with white supremacists:
http://www.thenation.com/doc/20050620/blumenthal
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Is that what you're telling me? Some do, but it's not liberals who form racist survivalist groups like Tim McVeigh, who hated the federal government the same way nutters here do. He battled the issues with words? No, bombs.
And how about the gentleman who shot up a church because he was afeared of liberals? He had copies of O'Reilly and Hannity all over his house to fuel his impotent rage. That's why you guys love your guns. |
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Your tone is one that makes me worry about the direction the small faction of disgruntled racists are heading in this country should Obama become president. And it will happen, short of McCain stealing the vote. I believe McCain and Palin both tapped into this noxious cesspool of Americans that reside among us, and to their eternal detriment, they should NEVER be allowed a dignified spot in our government after the election. I predict that next go-round McCain will be tossed out of the Senate and Palin will be forced out of Alaskan politics for her treachery there. It will be people like you and vintage who try to place her in the running in 2012. Hopefullly, you will have seen the light by then. |
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against the Christians and Jews!!!! |
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Move over Busty Montag and Joe the Fake Plumber! Make way for the newest Icons of the Republican Party! I give you the racist stylings of Eddie Too, Mrs. Ramsey and Trampling out Vintage. Read their comments and weep for America, my friends. This is YOUR Rightwing.
You all must be soooooo verrrryyyyyy proud. |
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...to lose big-time because the USA is tired of racist fear-mongers stuck in 1955. You're obsolete. |
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Speaking of racist groups. How about the church that Obama went to for 20 years and the Black Liberaion Theology he believes in that teaches that whites are evil and can't be Christians unless they act black? How about Obama and Farrakhan being big buds? I guess black racism is okay with you? |
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if your posts had even a slight connection to reality they might influence a nine year old. They are not going to work on adults. Adults are willing to engage in reasoned discourse. Adults do not look at mindless accusations and attacks as reasoned discourse.
Some day maybe you will acquire the ability to post with influence on TH. But, you have a long way to go baby.
Maybe it is because you are one of leftist feminists who like Obama's boots as they step on Hillary Clinton's neck. One of those leftist feminists who plaintively squeal, "Who besides Hillary should we sacrifice for you master?" The left has reduced feminism to a joke. |
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My part of the right has people like Watts, Sowell, King, Williams, Jindal, Elders. The left has Byrd, Kennedy, Pelosi, Reed, Farrakhan, Wright, Frankin. Oh, I feel right proud of the company I keep. |
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in this country. Anytime they don't get what they want, they pilage, burn, and destroy even their own businesses and automobiles as if to defiantly claim their uncivilized behavior.
I'm sure everyone remembers the Rodney King trial. That was bad enough, but my God, when they (all black people) recently vandalized and robbed businesses in the last hurricane, that was undeniably a "BLACK THING!" White people don't go out and rob at every opportunity.
If Obama doesn't win, they will probably show their ignorance and do it again, and if they do I hope they're arrrested and each and every one of them is given 10 years in prison without the possibility of parole to the last man/woman. It's time to make them pay for the damage they do with their total disregard for others.
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You: To answer your question on percentage of people of color voting for Obama: Because black and white and brown people are smarter than you give us credit for.
Me: So 95% of Blacks are smart, but only half of Whites are smart? Oh, the irony of your words is killing me.
Don't quote a biased USAToday artical about Sean Hannity's palling around, when Barack sat in Rev Wright's anger filled Church for 20 years. Hardly a comparison. Hannity interviewing a guy is hardly palling around with him.
What percentage of White people do you think have sympthetic views of Neo-Nazi white supremists? I would guess less than 1%. Most people like me think these thugs are a disgrace to our society. Conversely, how may Black Americans think Louis Farakhan is a disgrace? Give me a break! Your arguement doesn't hold water.
You say "minorities are smarter than "YOU" give us credit for."
Where did you learn that? Those words have never come from anyone that thinks rationally. I said Democrats are stupid. Do you equate Democrats with minorities? Interesting. |
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prominence in left wing ideologies? Foolish, foolish leftist feminists, Obama loves your devotion to his cause. He knows he has you because if you support him after what he did to Hillary, he can treat you any way he likes. |
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Working people are not going to riot if the election goes either way. They like many Americans have to work to pay bills and provide a better life for their family. Only losers riot because they REALLY think that Obama is going to improve their lives. If Chairman Obama becomes President; Obama will improve HIS life, not yours.
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fascist leaders, how many totalitarians have been women?
Men who seek power in an inordinate way have never respected women.
Good luck you leftist feminists. |
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the truth hurts. You are living proof. |
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Moi, racist? Whatever are you writing about? |
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The amount that black people talk, think and fret about racism. Being black, I can tell you that as a whole we understand that there are racists, some apparent, some not -- but we hardly make it a point to dwell on it.
Black people vote democratic because there are some very high profile republicans that don't mind embracing prejudice. Trent Lott. Newt. Rush. etc.
I've been to Appalachia. I've been to the red Midwest and Southwest. These are not places where it is fun to be black. Luckily America is a big country and it's fairly easy to live a life separate from values you don't share.
Has John McCain or Sarah Palin done ONE outreach event to the black community. Name ONE. They haven't.
That's why black people are voting for Barack Obama. We're not racist, but we certainly know when we're not wanted. Apparently McCain / Palin doesn't want us in their ranks.
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Wow, somebody let the rabid bigot dogs out!
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the only racism exhibited in the presidential campaign thus far has been exhibited by the Obama camp.
Obama himself has brought it up more than once. The whole campaign is based on making white people feel guilty for the plight of black Americans with the hope of using that guilt to gain votes from those who feel guilty.
Most Americans wait until they see a person's behaviors before they determine whether that person merits any respect beyond that due every human being as a member of the human race.
I have not met anyone who opposes Obama because he is half Negro. I know many who oppose him because he has tried to hide his past and his record. |
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Of them all. When things do not go their way, they are always the FIRST to scream racism. It's ALWAYS about the color of their skin, and never about the CONTENT of their character!! Out reach to the Black community? Why should Blacks receive special treatment? Everyone knows that Blacks are voting for BO because of what he "promises" he will do for them, and because he is BLACK and to deny is a LIE!
People interviewed in Harlem proved it when they were asked who they were voting for, and everyone of them said Obama. That in itself does not prove the point, but this does: Each person who was asked the question explained why they didn't like McCain but did like Obama. Same ole, same ole - - change, speaks well, looks good - - the same shallow reasons. Well then these people were asked, "so, you agree with Obama's pro-life position?" Yes, each one said. And, "you agree with Obama's position that we should stay in Iraq and finish the war?" Yes, each one said. And you agree with his position against embryonic stem cell research? Yes, they all said. And the clincher of them all was this: And, do you think Obama's VP pick, Sarah Pallin, is a good choice?" YES, EACH ONE SAID!!! All of these positions are McCain's positions, not Obama, yet these people agreed and plan to vote for Obama when they do not even know what the man's positions are! What a sad commentary on Black Americans and whites alike who fear being cast as racists if the do not vote for Obama, or they want to be part of history by electing the first "real" Black president(since Clinton was the first "fake" Black president). My gosh, this country is in such deep trouble if this man is elected. All of you supporting him are indeed in for a rude awakening.
And about the rioting in the streets, oh yes, that's going to happen whether OB wins or loses, mark my words. |
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Bryan says: Black people vote democratic because there are some very high profile republicans that don't mind embracing prejudice. Trent Lott. Newt. Rush. etc.
Prove the above statement, I am sorry this time you are dead wrong! To make such a statement is blatantly Wrong! You need to do more in depth study of what you are accusing people of.
Minorities have voted for Democrats for Years and Years!, How dare you say it is because of these people now?
Bryan you are wrong and you have done it in a way that makes you look racist yourself. Please don't take your educated mind and leave it with just rumors you have heard or misunderstood. Do you know that Rush Limbaughs Top Guy that is on his show is Black?
Bryan, and your remarks about Mccain and Sarah doing events with Black people, you know as well as I do, that you have to be INVITED, and if you are not liked or on the wrong side you don't get invited, John would never turn down an invitation.
Stop Bryan, you are sounding way to much like you have lost your good sense.
I was mulling over this Black White thing and I wondered what exactly is it that the Minorities want? What exactly would it take to make them happy? Can you answer this and answer it honestly? We can't take back what happened in the past. So what is it? You say White people don't want to discuss this racist thing and I think that is total crap! What do you want Bryan? You can walk and talk, you can get an education, you can work what is it you want? You have every opportunity that anyone else has!
When you can stop telling stories about racism, maybe you can give me some insight as to what would make minorities happy!
You wanna talk ..Talk!
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I do not oppose Obama because of his skin color! Black people and whites alike who make that claim are proving their own racism. Obama is a Marxist socialist. That is why I DO NOT support him. Socialism does not work, people. Fidel Castro is a socialist who had the same aspirations as a young man as Obama does now, and who also promised "change and hope." Cube is now under a communist regime - the people there are definitely "equal" now; equally poor! That's what we're looking at in this country if Obama is elected. Even Biden himself has warned the nation that in Obama's first six months, he will definitely be "tested" by his "enemies" and that we the people need to stand with him because it is going to "appear" that his decisions are wrong. WHAT kind of confidence are we supposed to have in a leader like that?
Obama is about big government. We would all be wise to remember the words of Thomas Jefferson:
"Government that is big enough to give you everything you want is big enough to take away everything you have."
Those of you who think this is all hype and fear-mongering by the "right wing." Think again. Just wait and see. |
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Obama is not a socialist. That happens to be a very odd tag that McCain and Palin have assigned him for his promise to roll back bush's tax cuts for the very wealthy - which have contributed to the massive debt we now owe China, I might add.
Want to know something quite striking, though? McCain himself was against Bush's tax cuts back in 2002. McCain told his campaign crowd in 1999 that when the very wealthy reach a certain point in their wealth, it is only fair that they pay their fair share. HE SAID THAT. Can you believe for a minute that by McCain's 'standard' today, he, too is a SOCIALIST?
The fact that the McCain campaign continues to incite hate and violent rhetoric towards Obama based on these kinds of lies is exactly why McCain should be soundly drummed out of office. He has given a Frankenstein of lies and spin new life and now he can't control the monster he's created out of those disingenuous, hate-producing lies. He can't control his angry mob and he can't control the fact that America is turning away in droves from his lunatic following.
This is not a proud moment in our history, and we have McCain and Palin and Rove to blame for it. |
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Not surprised to see YOU here. Now the mob is complete. |
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Actually, I was funnin' with you, Tramp - but now that you've gotten twisted in a bunch over it, I should clarify:
Consider that McCain/Palin have effectively used the race card by means of their surrogates, and via seriously troubling smears in their rhetoric to their own disgrace. Consider that the polls indicate that those tactics have effectively turned voters away from the McCain campaign (and who could blame the African American community for backing away from such hateful bias?) and that the only Americans out there who support the nonsense being uttered by these guys - because, really Tramp, do you hear ANY semblance of policy or talk of issues in the McCain camp these days? - are those whom I would guess actually want to believe the lies, and facts be dammed. In other words, racists, bigots and dummies.
I'm guessing YOU are one of those "believers" in the McCain pile o' BS, am I right?
Using good old fashioned logic, I would say that with allllllll the facts and documentation to the contrary that is out there. Given allllllll the info that there is about McCain actually emulating virtually everything he has smeared Obama for, and given alllllllll the blatant racism now seen in the McCain camp - it's hard to believe that given allllllll that there are still intelligent, thoughtful and tolerant voters still rooting for McCain.
So, half the caucasian vote is skewed towards hate, bias and racist raving. |
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That's what taxing the rich so he can "spread the wealth" is all about, and those are his OWN WORDS!!! You think "Joe the Plumber" is a fake fictious character. He is not! He is everyone in this country who aspires to achieve the American dream, the American dream that OBAMA wants to steal the successful so he can give it away in government hand-outs!!! He says he's giving 95 percent of the people tax cuts, and he's giving everyone (except the rich) free health care. Really, and just who is going to pay for it? The 5 percent who are getting a tax increase? I don't think so. It's a promise he cannot possibly keep. But you know what he'll do when he breaks his promise? He'll blame it on Bush and the Republicans.
Regarding McCain, he is merely fighting back against the evil and unscrupulous attacks from the OBAMA attack machine. And I say, good for him. It's about time. So interesting how Obama can attack McCain all he wants, but as soon as McCain fights back, all hell breaks loose and he's called everything in the book. Liberal Democrats the likes of Obama, Biden, Kennedy, Clinton, Pelosi, Reed, and the list goes on and on, they are the ones who shame this country. This is not a "proud moment" in our history because of the vitriolic, hypocritical Democrats. They are the downfall of this country and always have been. Little by little. Nothing you can say will convince me of the virtues of Obama because while he's a slick talker (just words, just speeches), his actions drown out his words. Obama incites hate by promoting class-envy and racism, and by continually accusing his opponents of trying to "scare" people because he, Obama, doesn't "look like the guys on the dollar bill." Whatever! That is the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard. Those who oppose him do so because they are judging him by the CONTENT of his CHARACTER. I'm done debating with you. |
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All you said in your last post is what is wrong with McCain. Convince me to vote for Barack Obama. Show me ONE thing he has done for America? His record gives me no hope for growing my business. |
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You: Consider that McCain/Palin have effectively used the race card by means of their surrogates, and via seriously troubling smears in their rhetoric to their own disgrace.
Me: I don't see it! I also don't watch CNN or MSNBC. This is such a bunch of crap. It appears to me that a few loud mouthed Americans are looking for a chance to scream RACISM! THE ONLY PEOPLE THAT TALK ABOUT RACISM ARE THE SAME PEOPLE THAT CONTINUALLY PERPETUATE ITS IDEAS FOR THEIR OWN BENEFIT.
You: I'm guessing YOU are one of those "believers" in the McCain pile o' BS, am I right?
Me: Not really, I think McCain is one of the last of the Republicans I would have chosen, but he is still better that Barack on social and fiscal issues. Barack's radical stance on abortion is the biggie for me.
You: So, half the caucasian vote is skewed towards hate, bias and racist raving.
Me: Wow, so glad you feel that way about us white folk! I think Americans are more alike than we are different, and politics is certainly a driving force. |
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What do we want? Hmmmm.
For me, I would very much like it if people stopped thinking that black people have a "hive mind" and realize that we have differing viewpoints. I suppose that's the big thing.
As for the invitations...my point is that with Obama being black and running a strong ground game in the black community, and McCain / Palin essentially writing off the black community as unreachable, well of course they're going to have 2% support.
Personally, I think McCain could do MUCH better with black voters. Black people used to like John McCain a lot. He was our favorite republican for a looooong time.
I think the GOP is conceding ground that it shouldn't concede. |
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Bryan says: For me, I would very much like it if people stopped thinking that black people have a "hive mind" and realize that we have differing viewpoints. I suppose that's the big thing.
Bryan, that is your view of what you want, but there is more right? The two things you stated are respected by many of us Crackers, White just a joke Bryan. People! I don't even know what Hive mind means!
We know you have different viewpoints we all do, but does that constitute special treatment?
Bryan I am talking about all the stuff that Rev Jackson, Rev Sharpton, Rev Wright, they seem so angry about what? Is it their goal to keep minorities, minorities? Can't they put anything positive into the young minds? They constantly tell them the aren't good enough, we don't, they tell them that whitey hates them , we don't. Why do that to them?
We can't take back the past Bryan!
If you accept you are bad, if you accept you are not worthy you will be both. Young minds being trashed for what? So Jackson and Sharpton and Wright can be wealthy?
Bryan have you ever heard of Jesse Lee Peterson?
Awesome man, maybe you should look him up and take a look at his webpage.
Now that man has it going on!
Bryan I respect your brilliant mind. Use it for Good.
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If black voters liked Mccain they still do. Why would this concern you anyway? You have admitted to being on the far left?
Shouldn't you be stumping for Obama, he is the guy running for the Left? |
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Nothing like an openly racist posting to bring out the openly racist trailer park crowd.
Do all of you people have your sheets ready for the first meeting the day after the election? |
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I'm not much of a stumper for either side. I'm just bringing up different ideas to the table. This is a conservative blog, so when in Rome speak about the issues of Romans, eh?
My goal here is to discuss John McCain in the context of someone who doesn't dislike him, but is voting for Obama. To share some insight into that mindset, and to see inside the viewpoints of a community removed from my daily life.
I'll will check out that fella, and I have no love of the Sharpton's or Jacksons. Bleh. I think these men once had principle and were corrupted by the promise of power. One of the reasons I support Obama is that he's distanced himself from both Jackson and Sharpton, much to their chagrin.
I'm kind of stuck because socially I'm very liberal, but financially I'm very conservative. I'm really a man without a party, but I feel that social issues determine the tenor of a nation so I vote along social lines. |
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Oh,that's intelligent. Couldn't come up with anything better? |
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I find it ironic when it comes to the names that some people mention here - Jesse Lee Peterson, JC Watts, Thomas Sowell.
These folks have absolutely very little credibility in the black community. Many of us don't know them. And why? Because they usually take the modus operandi of many prominent black conservatives:
They talk ABOUT black people TO white people. They tell you things you want to hear. That is why you think so much of them. But to the community that really counts, they mean nothing
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This condescending tone about "black people are making a big mistake and don't realize it" that many, including Mr. McCullough are pushing here aren't exactly going to win you any allies.
I find it ironic that Mr. McCullough, who many of us blacks don't know from Adam, is actually putting himself on the level to tell us about something that we probably know better than he. Self-rightousness tends to do that to people. |
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