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Monday, August 18, 2008
Posted by: Kevin McCullough at 4:58 PM

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"No. I think he needed to be more specific on that. I happen to disagree with Barack on that. Like I said, he's a friend. But to me, I would not want to die and get before God one day and go, 'Oh, sorry, I didn't take the time to figure out' because if I was wrong then it had severe implications to my leadership if I had the ability to do something about it. He should either say, 'No scientifically, I do not believe it's a human being until X' or whatever it is or to say, 'Yes, I believe it is a human being at X point,' whether it's conception or anything else. But to just say 'I don't know' on the most divisive issue in America is not a clear enough answer for me.

That's why to say that evangelicals are a monolith is a myth, but the other thing is that you've been hearing a lot of the press talk about 'Well, evangelicals are changing, they're now interested in poverty and disease and illiteracy, and all the stuff I've been talking about for five years now. And I have been seeding that into the evangelical movement and it's getting picked up and a lot of people are talking about doing humanitarian efforts. But I really think it's wishful thinking on a lot of people who think they're going to drop the other issues. They're not leaving pro-life, I'm just trying to expand the agenda....

If an evangelical really believes that the Bible is literal--in other word in Psalm 139 God says 'I formed you in your mother's womb and before you were born I planned every day of your life,' if they believe that's literally true, then they can't just walk away from that. They can add other issues, but they can't walk away from the belief that at conception God planned that child and to abort it would be to short circuit the purpose."



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Joe writes: Monday, August, 18, 2008 12:31 PM
Obama the Waffle King
Ann Althouse reminds us that she is a law school professor:

Now, let's also look at Rick Warren's rhetoric. He asked, after a preface about abortion, "when does a baby get human rights in your view?" And, most obviously, his use of "baby" instead of "fetus" or at least "unborn baby" conveys a lot of opinion. But look at what else Warren is doing. He is not asking when does life begin?, a question that is much more susceptible to Obama's answer that only God knows. Warren is asking when do rights begin? That makes it a legal question. And Warren even appends the phrase "in your view."

So Obama's answer — that it's not for him to say — is inapt. Obama answered the question he expected to hear. But Warren had the wit to frame the question in terms of a legal opinion that Obama was fully equipped to give. When does the baby have legal rights?

And we know Obama's answer to that question, don't we? I think his answer is: When it is completely outside of the mother's body. Is it any more subtle than that? If it is, it's not much more subtle, and it's no wonder Obama chose not to answer the question asked.

http://althouse.blogspot.com/2008/08/asked-at-saddleback-fo rum-when-does.html

So I have to give kudos to Rick Warren for asking an artful and sharp question. It was totally fair, should have been expected, but exceedingly tough for a guy who likes his waffles to answer.
Andrew writes: Monday, August, 18, 2008 12:56 PM
rick warren
I am so proud of Rick Warren for making this statement. I really had my doubts about the whole political forum he did with Obama and McCain, until I watched it. I thought it was really good and further exposed Obama as a fake Christian. I actually came away from it with some excitement over John McCain. I never thought that would happen. I don't agree with McCain on stem-cell research and some of the maverick decisions he has made, but I thought he came across as a passionate pro-life advocate. It was McCain who was the exciter and Obama who had no passion at that forum Saturday night.
eddie too writes: Monday, August, 18, 2008 1:23 PM
McCain displayed leadership. Obama

displayed followership.
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