Thursday, December 20, 2007
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Kevin McCullough
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12:51 PM

 "The more you know?"
The NRO's Byron York breaks down the latest Iowa numbers... stay tuned for a surprise at the end:
There's a new Washington Post/ABC News poll out on the Iowa race. Conducted among Iowans likely to take part in the Republican caucuses, it shows Huckabee with 35 percent, Romney with 27, Thompson with nine, Giuliani and Ron Paul with eight percent each, and McCain with six.
Looking at intensity, 60 percent of those who named Huckabee as their choice say they will definitely support him, while 49 percent of those who named Romney say they will definitely support him.
When asked which issue was most important to them, 17 percent said immigration; nine percent said terrorism/national security; nine percent said Iraq; nine percent said abortion; and seven percent said the economy – a far different profile from the electorate at large.
When asked the attributes of the candidates, regardless of who they support, 29 percent said Romney is the strongest leader, versus 24 percent for Huckabee. Thirty-five percent said Huckabee best understands the problem of people like themselves, versus 23 for Romney. Thirty-five percent said Huckabee is the most honest and trustworthy, versus 23 for Romney. Twenty-eight said Romney has the best experience to be president, versus 19 percent for Huckabee. A whopping 61 percent said Romney has campaigned the hardest in Iowa, versus 20 percent for Huckabee. Thirty-five percent said Romney has the best chance of being elected in November, versus 24 for Huckabee. And 34 percent said Huckabee best reflects the core values of the Republican party, versus 25 percent for Romney.
When asked whether "Would you say the more you hear about Mike Huckabee, the more (or less, or unchanged) you like him, 37 percent said they liked Huckabee more the more they heard about him. Fifteen percent said they liked Huckabee less, and 45 percent said their opinion has not changed.
Finally, this question: Does the fact that Mitt Romney is a Mormon make you more (or less, or unchanged) likely to vote for him? Two percent said it made it more likely, 20 percent said less likely, and 78 percent said it wouldn't matter. That 20 percent figure is pretty high; the comparable number in the Post's New Hampshire poll was nine percent.
Did you get that peeps?
Nearly 80% responded that Mitt's "Mormonism" MAKES NO DIFFERENCE to how they see him! PRECISELY my point from the beginning. His speech was unnecessary. The BEST thing he could have done was emphasize his value system (which he did at FRC's Values Voters Summit).
Most damning of all for the entire GOP field... 82% of the respondents on Huckabee like him MORE or have no difference in their opinion - the more they learn about him.
One last interesting note on the battle shaping up between the fiscals and the socials:
It's funny, but when it looked like Rudy Giuliani, a social liberal, was going to be the nominee, we didn't see many, if any, establishment Republican opinion leaders freaking out over what kind of danger to the future of the party and the nation he represented….I think it's fair to say that it was assumed that Giuliani would be a sound representative of the Republican Party, and that the social and religious conservatives would do like they always do and get in line….
But lo, it turns out that the candidate who's caught fire comes straight out of the religious/social conservative wing of the coalition, and he is unsound on issues most important to the fiscal wing. It's not supposed to work that way. Nobody at the elite level seems to expect the economic conservatives to suck it up for the sake of party unity. What does that say about the place of social conservatives in the party all these years?
It's hard to shake the belief that the real problem with Mike Huckabee, as far as the establishment is concerned, is that he's not clubbable.
One last note of fully transparent disclosure: Everytime I write something positive about Huck, Mitt's people all throw things at me. When I say nice things about Mitt, all the Huckaboomers slash my tires. A long time ago when I said nice things about Fred... well you see the dilemma. And now I've just come to say the name Ron Paul for personal amusement because of the gasping for air the PaulPots go into at trying to out red-face each other... My point being - for the first time in my public life - I am NOT endorsing a candidate in the GOP Primary race. This blog and all of it's entries related to 2008 are meant to be as transparent a look as possible at the candidates as I am viewing them. Besides - I have no future dreams of being an administration's Press Secretary...
Did HH have Mitt on for the 50th day in a row?
Nice shot over the bow, at the bow, ...
FWIW, I'm a Huckabee supporter. He's not my perfect candidate - but after investigating them - he is the best - by far! |
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Huckabee is the best cannidate we have to chose from.
While I appreciate that Romney changed his views, it was all of like two seconds ago, and he just seems kind of fake and like he is an opertunist or something, which is why I sometimes jokingly call him plastic man. I'm not saying I just absolutely don't like the guy, but he seems like a gamble. And he repressents this same old rich republican spending millions to sell himself and smear the competition because he can't make the people like him type thing.
The Fred supporters are going to say Fred is the best choice but that is garbage. Fred I call Grumpy Old Sleepy. The Fred people forget that he lobbyed for pro-abortion groups and supported McCain-Feingold. Fred is a hollywood actor, who has an I'm gonna do what I'm gonna do, I'm not gonna dance to the tune of anybody, type attitude. That stubborness turns a lot of people off, like when he stubbornly came into the primary late. The anti-globalist people don't like him either. Neither do some people like that he has a wife half his age. Fred also refused to support a marriage amendment. People aren't interested in this lobbyist. And I'm glad.
Another great thing that you said is that you found Huckabee to be the best after investigating them. That is what a lot of people need to do. Huckabee is the best choice, and I'm going to be proud to vote for him. |
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I'm a Mormon. I'm for Mitt. I have to say that of the non-LDS religiously oriented bloggers, you are one of the fairest.
I don't agree with everythingyou say, and I have seen you mistate LDS doctine on occasion, but overall you do OK. |
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The Shift in Momentum IS FOR PRESIDENT HUCKABEE in 2008
Mike Huckabee is presidential material and is alone able to defeat Hillary & Obama. I am now convinced that those wealthier donors to Romney's, Giuliani's, and Thompson's campaign have wasted their money and if they continue, are wasting their hard earned money on candidates who do not have voter appeal or substance. As a member of the younger generation, I will tell you point blank, Romney, Giuliani, and Thompson DO NOT connect with us.
ROMENY has run out of gas. He has been the worst investment money could buy. His persecution complex makes him so defensive and wimpy that he cracks under pressure. Romney’s negative campaigning reveals his unprofessional desperation and that he is really an unkind angry person. BOTH Romney's and Giuliani's flop flip past makes them a liability and not an asset for republicans in 2008.
Every time Huckabee is heard his approval amongst Republicans and Democrats increases even WITHOUT major financial support. Just imagine what would happen if he got the major financial support. He is the Republican's secret weapon in the 2008 election. Huckabee's proven leadership can help bring America together as a team.
Huckabee is the BEST candidate because he not only attracts republicans but also democrats to his side without compromising his principles. Both side support is needed to win this election in 2008.
Listed at this link are 22 reasons and counting why I and many others switched my vote to Huckabee:
WHY HUCKABEE WINS THE NOMINATION and the PRESIDENCY
http://evolutionfacts.townhall.com
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I'm cherry picking this for space but it still makes my point and lets you know how Iowans think?? Scratch my head... plus it is my post-haha)
When asked which issue was most important to them, 17 percent said immigration; 29 percent said Romney is the strongest leader,
Twenty-eight said Romney has the best experience to be president
A whopping 61 percent said Romney has campaigned the hardest in Iowa, versus 20 percent for Huckabee.
Thirty-five percent said Romney has the best chance of being elected in November, versus 24 for Huckabee.
Okay so the candidate that is the strongest leader, most likely to win in Nov., has campaigned the hardest-showing that he'll go to work for us conservatives in DC, and the BEST experience and Mitt is still neck and neck in the polls there?? Mitt could make an ad out of these qualities right there
"Leadership, experience, hard working, best chance of being elected in Nov so say Iowans"
This is what the rest of the conservative party has seen in MITT from day one!! GO MITT!!! GO NAVY!!! |
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You (Byron and g2825m) have defined precisely what Mitt must do during the next fortnight.
Once he continues to educate the electorate ALSO about CRIME (and kooky-quotes such as quarantine of AIDS patients, which the Huckster didn't try to revise), he will remind them of the FOREIGN POLICY edge that he will continue to hold; in addition, he can discuss the Surge with abandon with people who still (properly) revere Bush, comparing/contrasting with "arrogant bunker-mentality" quotations.
I'm NOT "LDS" and continue to feel that Mitt's the Man. Judging from my recent blogging experience on this site, those participants who appear not to have a prior-commitment seem to concur...while those Hucksters who adhere to the aw-shucks school of populist politics have a difficult time contesting rational argument.
Clearly, the polls are showing a drop in the Huck-uptick, and his X-Mas ad will not stop the hemorrhaging (nor will Mitt allow it to limit his ad-barrage). |
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Everyone should please integrate the essays of HH and Mitt that are linked to the TownHall.com front-page.
The former is succinct, and the latter reflects the fluidity (also evident during the MtP interview) of thoughts that can easily be articulated (because Mitt has alredy thought-through and anticipated all reasonable queries).
If/when Mitt wins in Iowa/NH/Michigan/Nevada/South Carolina, will not the non-Rudy world (starting in a few hours with Tancredo) migrate in great numbers to this proven-winner? |
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"And now I've just come to say the name Ron Paul for personal amusement because of the gasping for air the PaulPots go into at trying to out red-face each other..."
No, you do it to make a horse's butt out of yourself, along with engage in some character assassination. |
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You're right to say Mitt can "dicuss the surge with abandon"
That's just what Mitt did at the beginning of the surge when things were'nt going so well. Romney said we need to set a time-table for withdrawl. At least Mitt mentioned we shouldn't let the enemy know what the time-table for leaving Iraq would be.
Now Mitt's behind the surge!!! It's working!!!
Reckless abandon. That's Mitt.
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You can buy a nice mansion in Beverly Hills you can buy a nice Citation to fly the sky you can buy a lots of talk radio's hosts but you can not buy my vote!!! Dario Salas Jr just your average Joe |
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Mike Huckabee - President J.C. Watts - Vice-President |
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I'm glad your vote is not for sale. Unfortunately, Mitt is trying his best to rent a few Iowa voters. That is for $500 to $1000 and up, you can become a "volunteer" and put out the word for Mitt as an advisor???
An interesting tactic to say the least.
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That Mitt faces a northeast bias not a religious bias. Republican voters feel more at home with a Christian sountherner and that's why Huck has hung in there. For Mitt to win he has to convince the paradigm republican voter he is with them on key issues.Romney also has a problem stirring emotion, his supporters are basically doing it on logic and intellect. If you look at Bush he was always better on the campaign trail than conducting the business of the President.The Republican candidate would be nuts not wanting Bush to campaign for him.The republican base loves him.The one thing they have a problem with is immigration but since that went down the Homeland Security dept. has really cracked down on it.I believe the immigration plan was a Karl Rove concoction and that's why he's no longer in the White House.
Mitt aligning himself with Bush on foreign policy was a smart move in the face of Huck denegrading it.Diplomacy is a tenent of the liberal orthodoxy because they want it as an excuse to downsize the military and intelligence.Just look at what Clinton did when he took over, he slashed spending on both.So Huck's wing tips vs. combat boots is right out of the libs playbook.Isolation works. It did with the Soviets,South Africa and N.Korea.Keep international pressure on Iran because they are a state sponser of terrorism,regardless of the nuke issue. |
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Give it a rest with the continual mud-slinging at Hugh will ya. It's getting tiresome and is indicative of a petty little mind. So Hugh's backing Mitt, so what? You provide a lot of interesting content at Townhall and I often enjoy reading it but I am getting to the point that when I see that dark blue background come up when I click on an article link I immediately hit the back button knowing it's one of yours and likely to be a slam at someone without whom Townhall would probably have barely got off the ground.
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The problem is that you say his religion makes no difference, then do a post about his divorce comments being against his religion. If it doesn't matter, stop talking about it. |
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Kevin,
I have enjoyed your columns. Stop bickering about something Hugh said or didn't say, that is what the MSM does. You are better than that. I know you are better than that. Thank you for informative reads, and FYI, people who actually absorb what you write don't enjoy it when you use sarcasm without merit (the whole can't be trusted as a journalist). This comment is actually to Kevin McCullough and not to other blog posters. |
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"But lo, it turns out that the candidate who's caught fire comes straight out of the religious/social conservative wing of the coalition, and he is unsound on issues most important to the fiscal wing. It's not supposed to work that way. Nobody at the elite level seems to expect the economic conservatives to suck it up for the sake of party unity. What does that say about the place of social conservatives in the party all these years?"
This is my thought exactly. Social conservatives can have influence, but they are not to be trusted to really lead are they. |
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The Huckster is on the Huckaslide to oblivion now that he has shown his true tunnel vision. Ron Paul can't get kick started even with his millions of dollars and dozens of annoying bloggers. Tacredo is dropping out. I can't even imagine what is going on with Rudy (I'm a little nervous about that one). I hope Mitt announces that Hunter will be his Veep and it will all be over. Go Mitt! |
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And it's not RP...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VhNBdZp__eU
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He lies about his meth laws and prints his own newspaper clippings to support it. He lies about being pro-life because a greater percentage of voters are pro-life in this election. He lies about his "universal health care" plan. He has $200 million and he's still too cheap to hire Americans - you can't really blame him. He thinks he's better than all of us so he doesn't need to spend his precious money. He never thought for a minute we'd find out, or that we'd care. He doesn't really have any thoughts or platform of his own - he's just a sock puppet who floats any way the wind blows. Don't get me wrong - he LOOKS fabulous! Really beautiful guy, got a great smile - and tall as all get out. My candidate just kinda looks like an old bantam rooster - that's funny 'cause it's so true. Dr. Ron Paul has been fighting the good fight for 20 years now in Congress. You all hear about him as Dr. No, but do you know he authors at least 10 pieces of legislation a year to REDUCE the federal government's power to those enumerated in the Constitution? Sometimes bills, but sometimes Constitutional Amendments too. He believes that if we need to do something that's not in the Constitution we should amend it to allow us to do so LEGALLY. You'll note this post WON'T be followed by one showing all his flip-flops... because there aren't any. I KNOW you've seen us all posting about him - why not take half an hour and see what the buzz is about at http://www.RonPaul2008.com? Or just look in the Federal Register? |
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