Tuesday, March 31, 2009
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Kevin McCullough
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 "Salt and Light..." There are a handful of times in life where you get to experience something that has the feeling of brushing the presence of greatness. In my life at various times that has been something I didn't always realize up front. But having returned from a day and a half and a sum total of nine events over that period of time with one person in particular I have to tell you... I think I did this weekend. In December of 2006 I wrote a column in which I was the first pundit in America to predict that Barack Obama would be president in 2009. I predicated that theory on a number of variables, but specifically foreseeing the possible match-up against a candidate John McCain, I felt that the overwhelming historicity of the race, the lack of specifics that the substance would come down to in the debate, and the inability for a candidate like McCain to take Obama on squarely would work against him, and in favor of Obama. Boy did I call that one... Knowing that McCain as a candidate would have a squleching effect on the base, and more or less finish him off, was primarily due to one large reason. He did not wish to embrace evangelicals. He was offered significant help by major marketing firms that could have put him directly in front of evangelicals, and should he wish to champion the issues, character, and enthusiasm they would have brought to the trail, it was well within his realm of influence to reach out to them. Instead he chose badly. He made a strategic decision NOT to offer the hand to faith based people, and as a result Obama was given free reign on the matters that people of faith cared about. McCain never even challenged, nor disputed blatant statements made by Obama that violated the basic conscience of the Bible-believing Christian. Riding the wave of that bit of history, running a campaign on nothing but empty words of "hope" and "change", and being left unchallenged intellectually, and spiritually on his messaging, Obama ran the table, and my prediction came true. I saw it all in December of 2006... I'm a wee bit weirded out by what I'm about to tell you, mostly because there is so much time to go until the campaign for 2012 begins, but I believe that Governor Huckabee will win the nomination, and in a very possible scenario President Huckabee will place his hand on the Bible in January of 2013. But like my impressions about Obama, this is not a random feeling I have but rather an atuned set of circumstances that would pave the way for it to happen. (Some of which I've even begun referring to on this blog...) Here they go: 1. Unlike the 2008 contest - the conservative message will be the ideas that the American people will be seeking. In only 75 days President Obama has distinguished himself as the most progressive, least values oriented, furthest left, most hostile to faith, risk, productivity, national welfare, border security idealogue the nation has ever seen. His attempt to devalue the American currency alone sets him in a class already of running the risk of being perhaps the most anti-American President to reside in the White House. His love for the limelight, his empty suit/no experience abilities in solving real problems are unable to hide his leftist principles/tendencies and he is being exposed. Buyers remorse is high, and the move towards sound economic policy will be the screams from every sector of the economy. In unison, the employee, the business owner, the manager, marketer, producer, and seller will all be screaming for financial policy overhaul. America presently has the second most punitive tax policy towards business in the world. This cannot continue to be the case and expect our economy to rebound any time soon. President Huckabee's financial policy message for the foreseeable future will be the fair tax. Taxing consumption is an equal opportunity tax, and people pay only on what they consume, the need for the IRS would be history, businesses would feel the freedom of venture, risk, and opportunity to return and the growth cycle economy would see historic achievement. 2. Unlike 2008 - the genuine believers in the social/moral causes of the day will be empowered. Barack Obama has turned out to be a lie of historic proportions. He has not championed the inclusion of Christians nor their perspective in his cabinet. (There is not a single born-again Christian advising him in any capacity.) His view of morality is absent, and his moral judgement is then flawed because of the absence of values in his own soul, much less his Godless policies that he's already pushed far harder than any Christian who voted for him ever believed he would. The persecution that is already being unleashed on the American Christian culture will continue to grow, but Christians will benefit from this in the purification of doctrine into action. In doing so, genuine believers will develop greater conviction on living faithfully, and their stewardship in their portion of "We The People" will be taken far more seriously. They will look for and expect from those they support to deal with the issues of the day with transparent honesty, individual decency, and lasting integrity. In short Megan McCain is NOT the future of America and the McCainish disdain for moral clarity will in turn be disdained. President Huckabee will be someone the nation will be proud of in terms of his personal character, his pragmatic insight into solving problems, and his ability to help those who even dislike him initially to be swayed with humor and humanity. 3. Unlike 2008 - a base will emerge and rally to the Governor's aide. Unlike the non-enthusiastic campaign of Senator McCain, Governor Huckabee will have vibrant, faithful, and enthusiastic volunteers who form armies in every state. It is an easily provable fact that had Senator Fred Thompson not remained in the race in South Carolina (thus doing a favor to Senator McCain) Huckabee would have steamrolled McCain and taken the momentum in Florida. To lose to McCain by a single point in South Carolina stole the momentum away, allowed McCain to claim the mantle, and head to Florida with a lead in last minute fundraising. This will not happen in 2012. Huckabee's brand will be the most established voice and brand of the GOP by the time the primary elections get underway. And hopefully this time National Review will not be bought off by alias PACs funded by the Romney camp to create abjectly false impressions and misrepresentations of Huckabee's platform while overlooking significantly noticeable gaps in Romney's. (As an aside, I spent more time with Romney and Huckabee in the 2008 primary than any two of the other GOP candidates... I like both men personally. And would've supported either of them in the general election. But make no mistake about it, Huckabee is the more electable of the two.) These impressions formed outlandish mischaracterizations by some conservative icons of Huckabee in 2008. But by having his own talk vehicle, platform, and extended reach through ABC network commentaries and the Fox News Channel's television network, Huckabee is avoiding any future dependency on a singular conservative outlet getting his message out. He's taken control of the message, and the distribution rights of the medium, and he won't be bullied in 2010,11, and 12. The home-school groups will return, so will the college kids, so will African American and Latino voters -- all of whom share a natural affinity with Huckabee that will be lacking in every other GOP candidate. They will volunteer for him, they will walk districts for him, they will pull all-nighters for him. Because they will see their efforts in doing so as them being able to take charge of their own future. Long story short I've just completed two days and nine events with Governor Huckabee. In multiple settings from private meals to public speaking, from morning church to a University convocation service (pictured above) he was embraced and given standing ovations in every location. (Including the 10,000 college kids picture above!) The reason is clear... no one believes Governor Huckabee walks on water, but they have learned that his word is his bond. They hear from his heart and they see that he is more like the everyday guy than any man to ever run for President. They also value his judgment, and his ability to speak to what they are feeling. The combination to do those two things, combined with his taking control of his medium and message is demonstrating that even only 75 days into THIS administration Pastors across America are already telling their congregations they wished Huck had been the candidate, and knows he will win in 2012. And after spending this past weekend watching him, talking with him, and being with him up close... all I can say is, I see what they are feeling, thinking, and saying... and there is something happening *ALREADY* that will not be able to be countered!
Huckabee? Integrity? Are you kidding me?
Have you forgotten how cynically he played the anti-Mormon hatred in Iowa? How he covered up for his son's hanging a dog? How through a misinterpretation of the Holy Spirit he pardoned a rapist?
Yup, Huck's likeable and convincing--on the surface. He's shinin' ya' Kev. |
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You left out one major problem for Huckabee. Sarah Palin. She has a very loyal base. Team Huck is only about 20k strong, while Team Sarah is about 70k not to mention she has over 500k fans on FaceBook! Sarah Palin can easily eat into Huck's evangelical base too. Sorry, Huck's time was '08.
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people will probably turn to Romney, the financial guru, to help them out. I think people will be looking for a practical solution to the problems we will be facing. Nobody in the '08 election had a better skill set for the economy than Romney. Huckabee sounded a lot like Obama when his solution for "fixing" the economy was to build infrastructure, highways and building projects around the US. Frankly, I also agree that Palin excited the base way more than Huckabee. |
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"Have you forgotten how cynically he played the anti-Mormon hatred in Iowa?" I want to jump in and say that is a tired old smear. Huckabee never went after Mormons. He even said boldly many times that he would vote for a Mormon.
Huckabee is a straight shooter and the American people will want that after the false honesty of Obama.
Clifton makes the case that Palin will eat into Huckabee's Christian base. While that may happen some, just look at the recent CNN polling data...in two national polls Huckabee AND Palin were both top GOP choices with Huckabee up in one and Palin in the other by small margins...they both came in at about 30% each...meaning they can both co-exist.
Over the course of a long campaign, Huckabee will shine in debates and hostile environments while I don't see Palin credibly doing "Meet the Press" or "Fox News Sunday" anytime soon.
Huckabee is probably the most electable Republican thanks to his high favorables from polling of independents, minorities, and less-political types. |
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mr huckabee, the recent governor of my fair state, is an advocate of illegal immigration. he refers to those of us that are in favor of enforcing the law as bigots. mr huckabee is also a proponent of big government, and is a big spender. please, if you want a candidate like huckabee, vote in the democratic primary, which is where huckabee should bee. surely somewhere there is a candidate who is not trying to destroy our nation by importing hoards of illegals to vote democrat. |
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"Obama when his solution for "fixing" the economy was to build infrastructure, highways and building projects around the US." -- Actually not very much of Obama's spending plan goes to that....it mostly goes to social programs like unemployment, some tax credits, etc.
--Huckabee's main economic plan was tax reform which would save countless man hours (increased efficiency) and would actually allow US manufacturing a chance to compete with the rest of the world.
"Nobody in the '08 election had a better skill set for the economy than Romney." -- Romney's economic record is miserable. MA had one of the bottom 10% economic growth rates among states when Mitt was Governor. I have yet to see him actually bring about economic reforms to any governmental structure.
"AS MITT ROMNEY pursues his bid for the presidency, his record as Massachusetts governor will come under scrutiny, including how the state's economy performed during his administration. Our analysis reveals a weak comparative economic performance of the state over the Romney years, one of the worst in the country.
On all key labor market measures, the state not only lagged behind the country as a whole, but often ranked at or near the bottom of the state distribution. Formal payroll employment in the state in 2006 was still 16,000 or 0.5 percent below its average level in 2002, the year immediately prior to the start of the Romney administration. Massachusetts ranked third lowest on this key job generation measure and would have ranked second lowest if Hurricane Katrina had not devastated the Louisiana economy. Manufacturing payroll employment throughout the nation declined by nearly 1.1 million or 7 percent between 2002 and 2006, but in Massachusetts it declined by more than 14 percent, the third worst record in the country."
http://www.boston.com/news/globe/editorial_opinion/oped/art icles/2007/07/29/romneys_economic_record/ |
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I was not interested in his cammpaign, but his TV show reveals an appealing persona. |
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This story was prophetic and make me smile !!
I am one of those avid Huckabee supporters because he is trustworthy and credible. He has humility, courage, and principles along with practical common sense and leadership experience. America will need Huckabee even more in 2012 ! Learn more at HuckPAC.com. |
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"mr huckabee, the recent governor of my fair state, is an advocate of illegal immigration. "
Can you provide evidence of Huckabee advocating for illegal immigration?
"mr huckabee is also a proponent of big government, and is a big spender."
Can you show me quote of this nature? Can you point to any of Huckabee's 2008 platform that called for expanding government spending?
And don't say...well Arkansas's budget grew while he was Governor. It did grow. It also was the MOST Democratic legislature in the country and in Arkansas the Governor has no real veto power. Also, the budget growth was less than an average state over that period. |
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I have no problem with Huck, mainly because I don't know enough about him yet.
However, I do have one question from the above posting. McCullough writes this: "His view of morality is absent, and his moral judgement is then flawed because of the absence of values in his own soul..."
How does McCullough calim to know what is in another person's soul? I consider such judgments to be God's sole domain.
I have to wonder how big an ego must be for a blogger to consider himself to be God-like. |
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David,
You can't tell everyone that Arkansas is the most democratic legislature. I think of at least one that is worse, Massachusets. But yet, you cite the liberal Boston Globe in your analysis of Romney's record and how "bad it was" and tell us that Huck had no veto power. Give me a break!!
Having interacted with many Baptist Preachers over the years, I am positive that the "dumb question" that Huck asked about Mormon Religion (Don't they believe that Satan and Jesus are brothers?) was calculated (see a search on mormon beliefs in the Southern Baptist Association). Every Baptist preacher in the world (not just America) attempts to know what the Mormons believe. He wasn't asking... He was telling.
I am glad that Huckabee got a Saturday Morning TV deal out of his candidacy and a friendship with Chuck Norris. That definitely makes him an everyday man. I'm also glad that pundits are already making endorsements for 2012, instead of focusing on 2010, so that we still have a democracy in 2012. |
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and I'll repeat my prediction here. I will be president of the United States before Mike Huckabee will be.
Kevin, your heading regarding "integrity trumps everything" says it all. It's why I don't believe Huckabee will ever be president. |
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One of the few offering real solutions to our countrys problems ,Romney is ok, but He is an insider and part of the group of elites that have tanked our economy . His spotty record as a conservitive will continue to haunt him . I love Palin ,but she needs to polish her speaking skills and really work hard on her interviews ,both her and Huckabee appeal to the bluecollar Sam's Club republicans. That is the group of voters it will take to beat Obama ,they were the difference in the last election.Obama pulled enough of them away to win and without Pallin it would have been even worse . |
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I agree with you Kevin that Governor Huckabee is the ONLY choice in 2012 and I can feel it here in SC. I attended one of the 130 HuckPAC House Parties on 2/26 and there were several FORMER Romney supporters there who said they supported Romney in 2008 but DO NOT THINK HE IS THE WAY TO GO for 2012! Governor Huckabee has taken charge of his own destiny with his tv exposure, his radio broadcast and his NY Times best-selling book. No longer will he depend on the cash influenced media/campaign distortions. People will get to hear the clear, concise, consistent, common sense answers he has to our problems, starting with THE FAIR TAX...Ya gotta love Mike Huckabee.... |
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Does anyone have the link to Keving's blog where he made a prediction about Obama.
Kevin wrote: "In December of 2006 I wrote a column in which I was the first pundit in America to predict that Barack Obama would be president in 2009." |
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It's about time Townhall showed Huckabee the respect he deserves.
if not for the media distortion and religous fear mongering, Huck would have been president in 2008.
Unlike the fraud Romney, Huck was against all the bailouts...
Unlike our fraud president, Huck doesn't use a teleprompter when giving speeches.
Unlike Sarah palin, Huck knows the issues and can clearly articulate them.
Unlike 2008, Huck will have more money, name recognition and respect (especially in debates) in 2012. |
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"Having interacted with many Baptist Preachers over the years, I am positive that the "dumb question" that Huck asked about Mormon Religion (Don't they believe that Satan and Jesus are brothers?) was calculated (see a search on mormon beliefs in the Southern Baptist Association). Every Baptist preacher in the world (not just America) attempts to know what the Mormons believe. He wasn't asking... He was telling."
Good to know you are enlightened enough to rise above such crude stereotyping of people based on their faith.
"I am glad that Huckabee got a Saturday Morning TV deal out of his candidacy and a friendship with Chuck Norris. That definitely makes him an everyday man."
Saturday evening, prime time, my friend. And like him or not (and you fall clearly into the "not"), he has been the top ratings getter most every time he has been on the air.
And what's your point about being an "everday man"? I thought the criticism of the man was that he's too ordinary, too average, too "vulgar", too firmly rooted in evangelical religion, too much a populist. Now the success he's enjoying for speaking out and running on his convictions proves he's not an everyday man? And we should therefore vote for Romney?
How come so many of Huckabee's critics rely on applying labels to him to smear him? |
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Kevin, I totally agree with you about Governor Huckabee. I pray you are correct about him being the nominee and I pray he becomes the President. It will only help him further to choose Sarah Palin as his Vice-President. I was so disappointed when President Bush (although I still love him) would not come out and say in a recent interview that Jesus is the only way to Heaven. I don't think Huckabee would ever shy away from that point. I can see already the souls of Christians crying out for some decency in the White House. On a side note, I am making a prediction. The media very soon pick up on this Huckabee momentum and will begin saying that it is racist for anyone to even run against President Obama. When he gets beat in 2012, there will be riots everywhere. |
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Governor Huckabee, it is important to beware of attacks from bigoted Mormons. |
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...it on himself. In the beginning a lot of Mormons loved Huckabee. (He's very likeable.) As you know, there's a long history of virulent anti-Mormonism spewed by Baptist and other evangelical pastors, so Mormons are a little wary. Huckabee was a main speaker at the SBC convention in Salt Lake City, which was held there as an in-your-face kind of thing.
Huck labeled himself as trying to use anti-Mormon sentiment with his stupid Christ/Satan comment (hardly an innocent question: good grief).
But the worst was his taking advantage of the insane, hateful anti-Mormon sentiment ginned up by Iowa pastors among the little old ladies brought in from the hinterlands on church busses. It was the only way Huck could win in Iowa.
A man of integrity would have openly denounced such tactics. He would have been at College Station supporting and defending Mitt at his Faith in America speech.
When an Iowa lady said to Huck: I won't vote for a Mormon because they cannot have the Holy Spirit, Huck didn't set her straight. He just laughed and said: "I'll take your vote anyway I can get it."
Huck without money and without national influence could only do as well as he did by playing the "Christian" card--and that meant playing the anti-Mormon card as well.
Now, would be make a good president? Maybe. And if he were to win the nomination, I would support him. But it's he who picked a fight with Mormons so he could get votes, not the other way around.
It's a Catch-22 for Huck. He HAD to play the Christian card in the '08 primaries, but such overt religiosity will prevent him from ever being POTUS. The American people at large are terrified of what they perceive as religious zealotry.
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You are right on target Kevin! I must go ahead and tell you that the "grassroots armies" in many states have never broken rank since the primaries. The longer we went on in the process, we grew stronger. Hundreds of us poured into Texas last March, even though we knew the outcome. For many of us this was our first political rodeo. We are now becoming more active in our local Republican parties and some of us have run for office - for example the 20 year-old mayor of Muskogee, OK was first a Huckabee volunteer before winning office. Most campaigns end and people scatter. Mike's campaign has become much more than that - it has become a movement! We are dedicated, passionate, and won't be turned away easily! |
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the dog so well, it is widely known from one end of this country to the other. Try again. |
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Please provide proof to this assertion
"But the worst was his taking advantage of the insane, hateful anti-Mormon sentiment ginned up by Iowa pastors among the little old ladies brought in from the hinterlands on church busses. It was the only way Huck could win in Iowa."
You have made the accusation, now provide concrete proof of this. You must prove two things. That this "ginning up" actually happened and secondly, that Huckabee coordinated and engineered it.
Please do better than hearsay and second hand accounts.
Put Up OR SHUT UP.
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You wrote: "We are dedicated, passionate, and won't be turned away easily."
I believe you. And for this reason, the Democrats will hold power long after we're all dead.
Neither Huck nor Sarah can ever become POTUS, no matter much you want it. The American people at large will not have it, but Huck will forever be the spoiler.
Party on while America goes down the tubes. |
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The emails and newspaper articles from anti-Mormon pastors were rampant right before the Iowa caucus. I had 'em, but they are long gone in my computer.
I'm sure if you want to do a little research, you can dig them up. They prove the anti-Mormon frenzy was totally ginned up by Huck-supporting pastors.
Now, go read my posts. Did I EVER say Huck orchestrated the anti-Mormonism sentiment? I did not. Was he happy to take advantage? You betcha!
Did he ever stand up and renounce such tactics? Nevah!
The original premise of this blog is that Huck's undying integrity will shoe him into the White House. I don't think so.
He appears to be an opportunist of the first order.
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"Did he ever stand up and renounce such tactics? Nevah!"
This is a falsehood. He went out of his way to point out that he would vote for a mormon and he did not advocate or endorse or condone this sort of behavior.
By the way, nice way of avoiding my question.
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You said: I am positive that the "dumb question" that Huck asked about Mormon Religion (Don't they believe that Satan and Jesus are brothers?) was calculated (see a search on mormon beliefs in the Southern Baptist Association).
But, Jeff - you can't be positive of anything concerning Huck's intentions with that question. And ya know what? If it had been ME Romney immediately went after to try and destroy fresh out of the gate in the primaries with low attack ads, by spending millions of his own money, I might have had a select few questions for him myself. It was a low down, dirty thing Romney did to Huckabee, and a low down, dirty thing the liberal, biased, soicalist agenda, Obama loving moderators did to Huckabee AND Tancredo by giving them one third the amount of time to answer (pathetic) questions anyway, while giving McCain, Romney and Guilliani softball questions and plenty of time to 'spin' the answer. Dont be a pinhead.
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I'll wager you've never visited his site to see where he stands on illegal immigration have you? He has said at least 100,000 times that he wants the border sealed shut, and wants the illegals to come in through the front door legally. (Most Americans want that.) He wanted Mexican students who attended school, applied themselves and got good grades to be able to advance, get scholarships, etc. but that's a far cry from saying he condones illegal immigration, actually what it is, is a lie!
The state also mandated that Mexican students be given those rights anyway, and he was obligated to administer that as part of his job.
The truth always seems to escape you liberals so easily though, doesn't it? |
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Further, the illegal immigrants had to apply to become citizens. They had to come out of the shadows and join the economy. It was a move that encouraged an end to lying, sneaking around, and cheating the system and encouraged them to become productive citizens of the community. |
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than we could have gleaned from the primaries.Watch his show, visit his website and get to know the man and you might just be surprised. President Huckabee might just be the ticket to bring America to a greatness it has lost. |
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The real Rush was never for Huck. Or Mack. He was, however, for Mitt and defended Sarah. Never dissed Rudy or Fred as far as I know.
And calm down. I'm not saying Huck would be a bad president. I'm just saying I believe integrity is not his long suit--although he certainly tries hard at sounding sincere.
And, I was responding to Eddie Too, who complained Mormons are anti-Huck bigots. I'm just saying, not in the beginning...until it began to get ugly. The bulk of the bigotry flows toward the Mormons, not the other way around.
You guys used anti-Mormon bigotry to defeat Mitt--even tho a lot of evangelicals fought for Mitt. Don't go crazy on me; I know there were other issues with Mitt's candidacy.
But you cannot deny that everytime some true bigots hear the word Mitt or Mormons, they lose their minds. It's not helpful.
McCain mentioned on FOX recently that Gov. Huntsman (Utah) would make a good candidate for POTUS. There are a lot of smart, conservative, capable Mormons out there. Get over it. |
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You said: mr huckabee, the recent governor of my fair state, is an advocate of illegal immigration. he refers to those of us that are in favor of enforcing the law as bigots.
Show where we can see the text from that speech because I say that Huckabee has never called anyone a bigot. And if he did, you will give proof of it or be forever known as a liar. |
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Huckabee's got numerous factors going for him. Being on top of the downward spiral of the economy was a biggie. Building his way from the ground up politically despite being grossly outspent demonstrates a level of dedication that no one else with his lack of funding could generate. He's a Conservative through-and-through, and better yet, appeals to both independents and minorities.
When the '08 primaries started off, we were given our choice of Rudy, McCain, or Romney by the media. The only one who managed to successfully break through the predetermined set of candidates was Huck. Will it be enough to overcome Obama in 2012? I don't know, but he strikes me as the most Conservative and the most viable candidate we have, and one I'd be proud to call my President. |
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And I will support him in every way possible in 2012.
Cheers,
YK |
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It gets old after a while of hearing the same old song and dance against Mike Huckabee. He was no more for illegal immigration than anyone else, but he did refuse to treat the illegals badly. He wanted them treated humanely, is that such a bad thing? |
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A word of advice here assuming that these negative Huckabee comments are coming from those in OUR OWN party...If we can't even unite within our party how are we ever going to beat Obama in 2012? You see, his party has already healed their rift and united. It does not benefit OUR PARTY or our cause to spew negatives against ONE of our MOST POWERFUL assets and that asset is Gov. Huckabee! Whether Huckabee is goimg to be the nominee (I believe he is) or just one of the top Republican voices we should ALL have nothing but praise and admiration for a man who has proven that he is a leader, a mover, a shaker in the party and whose ideas have proven to be right for this country. Huckabee is actively working (thru HuckPAC) and volunteering of his time for fundraising events to get other Republicans elected. How can you write negatives about someone who IS ON YOUR SIDE????? |
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I find it odd that most of these comments that are negative against Huckabee are repeating the question Huckabee asked in an interview in 2007 about whether Mormons believed that Satan and Jesus were brothers. Isn't this in fact, the truth? Let me ask you, why did Mitt Romney not stand up for his faith and tell the press and the world exactly what Mormons DO believe, if he thought the question was out of line? Seems to me, it would have been the perfect time for Gov. Romney to set the world straight about his religion. Instead, silence as always from Romney about his faith. Was he ashamed of it, trying to minimize it because he thought it might cost him a few votes or just what caued him to remain silent? I think that question is a lot more pertinent than that Huckabee asked the question. |
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I have been since April of 2007. I examined the records of all of the GOP hopefuls at that time and the one I considered most conservative and in-line with my values was Governor Huckabee.
I truly hope he runs again and if he runs he wins. The country (if it still exists) will be in desperate shape by 2012.
I fully expect that we will be in a major (I consider Iraq and Afghanistan as minor) military conflict by 2012 because the Narcissist in Chief knows that America seldom changes Presidents during wartime. |
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Sarah said, Neither Huck nor Sarah can ever become POTUS, no matter much you want it. The American people at large will not have it, but Huck will forever be the spoiler
Sarah, I don't know why you fell Gov. Huckabee could not be president but I can tell you there is nothing that man can't do. He brought himself up from poverty to be successful at being a pastor, lt. gov., gov., political analyst, Tv talk show host, NY Times best-selling author, fantastic bass guitar player and famed radio broadcaster, taking over Harvey's time slot. He has more executive experience than anyone out there. His platforms and views from 2007 have been prophetically correct and he no longer has to depend on the cash based media bias because he has his own media venue. So...good luck trying to convince ANYONE that Mike Huckabee could not be president. I'll get back to you in November 2012! |
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I did not say Mormons are bigots. I said their are bigoted mormons against Huck. I was trying to distinguish between Mormons who opposed huck for political reasons, mormons who supported huck and mormons who bought into the lies about huck hating mormons. The ones who bought into the lies are the bigots.
I never ever believed all of the mormons thought like Qweenie. |
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That is why the mainstream media and pundits attacked him and tried to diminish him.
The establishment greatly fears the "Fair Tax" that huck supports.
Without the federal income tax, the establishment cannot control the economy.
The elites are behind the current changes under the Narcissist-in-chief (NIC) because they make the elite more entrenched by making it harder to do well economically in America. |
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First off, you and I agree on much more than we disagree on; however, I have to object to your charcaterization of everyone who "bought into the lies are bigots". What lies are you referring to? I'm curious because I want to know if I am a bigot in your eyes.
I'll tell you where Huck lost me. Producing an attack ad - a personal attack ad, decided not to run it but then showed it to the media, thus getting the message out there without even having to pay for it. Ed Reynolds subsequently admitted to their campaign manipulating the media in such ways. To me, any claim to integrity was lost with that move.
Second, what does Huck believe? You guys that are critical of Mitt for not explaining in detail what his religious beliefs are, look at your guy. Does he believe Mitt is not a Christian because of his Mormon beliefs? That's apparently the belief of the SBC. If he believes that why didn't he say it when he was asked in a debate? Lack of courage? Doesn't know what Mormons believe?
I admire you guys who support Huckabee and I think his supporters did a terrific job of making him a competitive candidate. I think it's great that you defend him and support him. The fact that I don't share those feelings does not make me a bigot. |
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mostly I agree with what you post also.
I am willing to agree to disagree on the rest.
I think my using Qweenie as an example explains what I think is a mormon bigot.
I really never put you in the same category as Qweenie.
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huckabee apart from most politicians is that he sees elected office as being a servant.
I see few others who see elected office in that manner, maybe jindal, maybe palin, maybe gingrich; but I definitely see Huck that way.
He did not get rich as a governor. How many others can say that? |
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Sorry, still not reading you.
Bugs you to death doesn't it? |
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Both the republicans and democrats recieve all their money from large corporations.Corps are freindlier to democrat administrations because they love to regulate ,most smaller companys have hard time complying with constant regulation and costs associated with it and go out of buisness or sell out to a larger company which now has less competion and is more profitable . Huck appeals to the great majority of small buisness and common people ,Obama is acting a lot like Jimmy Carter and it is beginning to push his numbers down , carter led Reagan in the polls all the way up to the election and lost big in the only poll that counts . |
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If anyone knows bigotry... bwahahaha! you are the last low-life on the planet that can call someone else a bigot. geez loueez. Slither away. |
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I think (and hope) 2012 will be someone NOT in the 2008 race. Too many dividers in that group. Someone that will not split the vote like Huck, Romney did. I like Romney, but it isn't the time for him to run. Huckabee is WAAAAY too happy making the big bucks at FOX. Power would be his only reason to leave FOX. |
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Time will tell ,unlike romney Huck is the real conservative. |
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