Friday, December 14, 2007
Posted by:
Kevin McCullough
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12:05 PM

Charles Krauthammer: An analyst not to be trusted
Romney has been faulted for not throwing at least one bone of acknowledgment to nonbelievers in his big religion speech last week. But he couldn’t, because the theme of the speech was that there was something special about having your values drawn from religious faith. Indeed, faith is politically indispensable. “Freedom requires religion,” Romney declared, “just as religion requires freedom.”
But this is nonsense — as Romney then proceeded to demonstrate in that very same speech. He spoke of the empty cathedrals in Europe. He’s right about that: Postwar Europe has experienced the most precipitous decline in religious belief in the history of the West. Yet Europe is one of the freest precincts on the planet. It is an open, vibrant, tolerant community of more than two dozen disparate nations living in a pan-continental harmony and freedom unseen in all previous European history.
In some times and places, religion promotes freedom. In other times and places, it does precisely the opposite, as is demonstrated in huge swaths of the Muslim world, where religion has been used to impose the worst kind of unfreedom.
In this country, there is no special political standing that one derives from being a Christian leader like Mike Huckabee or a fervent believer like Mitt Romney — just as there should be no disability or disqualification for political views that derive from religious sensibilities, whether the subject is civil rights or stem cells.
This is pretty elementary stuff. I haven't exactly invented hot water here. The very rehearsing of these arguments seems tiresome and redundant. But apparently not in the campaign of 2008. It's two centuries since the passage of the First Amendment and our presidential candidates still cannot distinguish establishment from free exercise.
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You can't please every one. |
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pleased everyone on all his policy positions in the past 5 years. Charles - you mean Romney's Religious speech did not make you a believer? why are Romney's polls stagnanting between 15-25% - he should at least enjoy the kind of consistent lead Hillary has enjoyed since the beginning 35-45% when you put it within the cost of money spent and length of exposure to the american public. Romney stated he is hoping to gain the votes of social conservatives, fiscal conservatives and security minded voters. His stagnating polls indicate the social conservatives distrust him (4 abortion positions in 5 years and immigration???) will cost him Hispanic Catholic voters and other social conservatives. Fiscal conservatives may be the surprise voters who give him a bump nationally but Hillary will link Bush's spending habits (republican defecits) to any republican candidates and Romney can't overcome this huddle with his wall street experience - because fiscal conservatives want a true fiscal conservative and Romney is too Bush-like with the whole compassionate conservatism and Success in Iraq war-bill. Security minded americans will prefer a methodist in the whitehouse because Hillary knows this is her weak area and she will pick a 4 star general as her VP - having the same effect Cheney had on Bush's foreign policy critics. Rush begins his radio show Nov. 3rd 2009 with "america held hostage part 2 - I told you america, Hillary was owed the presidency and Bill delivered with votes from the african-american community and a large hispanic population who believe that Hillary is more likely to keep the borders open and push the amenesty bill than any republican president would. I told you this would happen - roll the tape. The Clintons in the whitehouse with 41-45% of the vote......and of course she will be re-elected! REJECT ROMNEY BEFORE HE COSTS US THE WHITEHOUSE BECAUSE WE ARE TOO SMITTENED! |
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"Mormonism should be a total irrelevancy in any political campaign. It is not. Which is why Mitt Romney had to deliver his JFK "religion speech" this week. He didn't want to. But he figured that he had to. Why? Because he's being overtaken in Iowa. Why Iowa? Because about 40 percent of the Republican caucus voters in 2000 were self-described "Christian conservatives" -- twice the number of those in New Hampshire, for example -- and, for many of them, Mormonism is a Christian heresy."
"Huckabee has exploited Romney's Mormonism with an egregious subtlety."
Mitt has tried to keep religion from defining his candidacy, he said as much in "the speech".
In fact, on the trail, Mitt tries to stay focused on policy, even when dogged with Mormon questions.
On the other hand, Huckabee's "my religion is better than your religion" emphasis is all his own doing. And a lot of his speeches sound like he is at the pulpit instead of at a political rally.
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the GOP party. He's trying to divide people of faith into sects!!
Also the MSM is going to have a field day with him. Expect alot of Gomer Pyle look alikes doing their best country preacher, hick, bible thumping satires on SNL & on Jon Stewart and Stephen Colbert if he gets into the general election.
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and Huckabee telling him he has to be subservient to him because according to him, women should submit to their husbands.
Ain't religion grand.
Mitt Romney is probably the most brilliant fiscal conservative, above average foreign policy conservative and social conservative the GOP has ever had but because the party has been so infected with the religiosity-conservatives we're turning our own primary into a Sunni/Shiite war. Pathetic.
In a perfect world Mitt Romney would back out of the GOP and run as an Independent. I know a lot of Republicans who would follow him. |
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Like Gov Romney explained he was referring to the nation. As a nation we are stronger with both religion and freedom. That is why I like him because You are irritated by his superb speech. |
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to Huck.You could write a War and Peace sized volume of negative stuff about this guy and his poll numbers would only go up.Why? Because the MSM offers no condemnation of his bio,statements or positions. Look at how they made a big deal out of Romney excluding athiests out of a speech on faith,,which is completely oximoronic, compared to the free ride they've given Huck on his numerous real gaffes.I wonder how many Target gift cards this guy got for all those pardons.This guy's house must look like a Best Buy warehouse. His system of self-reward would make any liberal blush but if you look at how TV Evangelicals do the same it's no wonder why it's accepted by so many people of that culture.This guy has attacked women,gays,AIDS patients,religions,pocketbooks and still you can't read his name anywhere without the word "surge" in the narrative. The reason is because he seems to care,the big trump card in a nanny state country. |
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As an agnostic, I didn't feel left out because Romney said upfront that he was going to discuss "a topic" and that one topic was "religious liberty".
I believe in religious liberty so it sounded good to me. Plus I found the speech profoundly patriotic.
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Religion without Science is lame! Science without Religion is blind! Just substitute Politics for Science and you get the same equations. The two need to co-exist, inform, and support each other! The American problem is that people try to get mileage or advantage from wearing their hearts on their sleeves! |
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Krauthammer is one of the most annoying commentators on the Brit line-up. I really don't care what he has to say, even if he criticizes Romney. In an age where we fight culture wars between traditionalism and secularism, Krauthammer is certainly on the wrong side of the fence. |
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