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Rush, Sean, and Laura
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With the exit of Gov. Mitt Romney there is no doubt that Sen. John McCain will be the Republican nominee.

The Popular Press is running around in tiny circles, eyes wide, arms waving, mouths agape selling themselves on the theory that McCain's impending nomination will signal the end of the Republican Party.

The Main Stream Media has a vision of the GOP which is that Republicans are a bunch of narrow-minded, widely-condemning, high-handed, low-opinioned, under-educated, over-critical brutes who subscribe to a political orthodoxy which brooks no deviation from a belief set laid down by disciples of Aimee Semple McPherson

Not all. But many.

Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, Laura Ingraham and the others are doing the work of the New York Times and the rest of the popular press by railing against McCain all day, every day.

It appears on the surface that their goal is to make Conservatives stay home next November 4 and hand the White House to Hillary or Barack.

But the reality is they are doing it because it means good ratings. When their listeners get tired of hearing them beat up on McCain, they'll switch to something else.

If they were to ask for my advice (which they most assuredly will not) I would suggest they take on the issue of the Democrats in the Senate holding up - according to the Wall Street Journal - 208 nominees: 180 nominees to executive branch positions and 28 nominees to the Federal bench.

If Rush, Sean, Laura and the rest wanted to really do a favor for America, they would get their tens of millions of listeners amped up about the nominees who are being held up - some for as long as two years - by Senate Democrats who will not allow the President to govern and will not allow the Judicial Branch to function.

But, I digress.

It is not a surprise that Mitt Romney got out of the race yesterday. After spending some $40-50 million of his own money and perhaps $100 million overall, he needed be able to have said more than "I did somewhat better than Mike Huckabee" after Super Tuesday.

Huckabee would never have gotten out of the race as long as Romney stayed in, so Romney found himself in an untenable political corner in which he was boxed in by McCain on his left and Huckabee on his right.

Huckabee will likely stay in at least until next Tuesday (the "Potomac Primary" - Virginia, DC, and Maryland) to see how he fares without having to share the right side of the ballot with either Romney or, as in South Carolina, Fred Thompson. After that Huckabee will get out leaving the field clear for McCain.

I don't have any idea that this has actually happened, but I would be surprised if surrogates for Charlie Black (McCain) and Ed Rollins (Huckabee) haven't been on the phone laying down the ground rules for a discussion about what role Huckabee will have in the campaign and what role his delegates will have at the Republican National Convention.

At the Conservative Political Action Conference (CPAC) yesterday, John McCain showed confidence and courage by standing before the very group which Rush, Sean, Laura and the rest have been attempting to agitate like a washing machine on steroids against him.

Watching the speech on television - first on Fox then on CNN - it appeared those in attendance appreciated McCain showing up, his willingness to openly speak about their differences, and his recitation of his Conservative creds.

It did not hurt that former Sen. George Allen stood with McCain as he was introduced, thus demonstrating that a favorite of core Conservatives - Allen - was pronouncing McCain satisfactory, acceptable, and … OK by him.

John McCain has nearly nine months to consolidate Republican support behind him. He will, with the aid of other Conservatives, do that.

Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama are going to be duking it out until at least April and maybe all the way to the Democratic National Convention in August - leaving the nominee only a couple of months to accomplish that feat on the Dem side.

The Talk Show Set should get on board and stop doing the work of the New York & Los Angeles Times, the Washington Post, Newsweek and Time.

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Rich Galen has been a press secretary to Dan Quayle and Newt Gingrich. Rich Galen currently works as a journalist and writes at Mullings.com

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Obstructionisim
Rich you fail to mention John McCain and the Gang of 14 who stepped in and fouled up the Republican controlled senate in their attempt to end the Democratic fillibustering.
In your opinion was that a display of patriotisim or a Power Grab by the saintly senator ???

The Ratings Game
Galen's comment:

"Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, Laura Ingraham and the others are doing the work of the New York Times and the rest of the popular press by railing against McCain all day, every day...the reality is they are doing it because it means good ratings."

And what about Michael Medved's (MM) support FOR McCain? Just tune into MM: It's the "ALL McCain, ALL the Time," show, IMO.

Hey people, all the talking heads on radio and TV are ENTERTAINERS.....that's what they get paid for.

More like Moe, Larry and Curly...
if you ask me.

Ron ROTFLMAO

Rush, Sean and Laura...
are part of the MSM now.

And let's not bring Moe, Larry and Curly down to that level, LOL!

SAT Time
Rush, Sean and Laura are to Republicans as Code Pink Protestors are to Democrats.

BLAMING TALK RADIO
Romney just dropped out yesterday, giving McCain, presumptively, the nomination. This is premature criticism. You don't know what, if anything, Rush et al are going to say or do at this point (9 months to go remember?). All the harsh criticism of talk radio hosts and conservatives who really don't like McCain is blaming the messenger in my opinion. I think McCain will lose in November even if every one of the anti-McCain conservatives ends up voting for him. If McCain loses in November it will not be the fault of conservative talk radio or conservatives who have vigorously opposed him.

Pouting
It is hard not to pout when your feeling have been hurt. Rush is one of the truly great pouters of our time but Rush will say he is not upset and from there the rationalizations will begin. Rush, Sean, and Laura have power but I am confident the days of sedentary power wielding are over. Sitting on ones a*s behind a microphone will not be powerful, will not be persuasive, and will not support continued good ratings. True Conservatives must call for and support massive demonstrations of power--- if Legislators cannot look out across the Reflecting Pool toward the Lincoln Memorial and see thousands of people making demonstrative demands they will not act. It is far too easy to change stations or hit the "off" button to eliminate dissent when the purveyors of that dissent are using the old sedentary communication technique. Mark Steyn had it right at CPAC but his audience was too small and of one mind.

A little mixed up?
I think you are perhaps a little mixed up Rich when you say that Rush, Laura, Sean, and some of the rest of us, are doing the work of the NY Times when criticizing McCain. McCain is the NY Times officially endorsed Republican candidate. Remember? Anyway I fail to see how it is so unpatriotic for these radio hosts to criticize Mr. McCain. Neither do I believe it is wise for you to impugn their motives as though you could somehow see inside their minds and judge them to be doing this just for ratings.

Talk radio is the only voice of the...
conservative movement. Where else will conservatives get news and opinion without the MSM spin? Don't forget that McCain got about 30% of the popular vote in the primaries. That's hardly an endorsement of conservatives.

Conservative talk radio is not for moderates and the left. It's for conservatives. McCain can't win without conservatives and everyone knows it. That's why we're hearing that we should ignore talk show hosts as if we base our opinions on what they have to say. That's what liberals do...not conservatives. I don't hear anyone saying that people should ignore NPR and Air America.

McCain was appointed by the establishment. How is it that he could be the nominee with half of the country yet to hold their primary? If all primaries were held on the same day, there's no way McCain wins. The system is designed so that the candidate is appointed by the establishment with the MSM as wingman.

I ignore anyone who tries to "unite" the party by bashing Rush, Laura, Mark, Glenn and Sean. I happen to agree with their ideology and don't need guys like Rich telling me to ignore them and for them to "get on board" and accept yet another RINO as the Republican candidate.

Galen revisits MaCain Feingold
Certain voices of disagreement should be silenced so far out before an election (McCain Feingold).

Do you think that McCain would have been so humble at CPAC if it wasn't for strong conservative voices in our party telling McCain that he must represent us all?

We are not Democrats where you either follow the party line or you are silenced. McCain taught us this reality with the Gang of 14.

So Galen just keep your comments to yourself, seeing that that is exactly what you are telling those who you obviously are jealous of due to their success and power in the party.

Solidarity has not mean a lack of disagreement!

Actually, I see
signs of Rush and Sean "coming around" to support McCain. It seems only Laura, Ann, Michael Savage, and Glenn Beck are standing with principle.

Too bad, as I turn off each host when they go over to McCain.

Rich...You have an axe to grind?
Against Conservative Talk Radio?
Because you seem to hold the same misconceptions about it...as those on the left.

I do agree with you that McCain and Huck advisors are talking now...
But it is my belief that they have been talking all along...
I do however feel for the Huck...
standing there in his underwear after Mitt's speech...really I do :)

PS: It appears that all three Ron's have now checked in :)

Who cares about Rush/Laura/Sean
McCain's not the perfect candidate. I suspect most of us can agree on that. But the last time Rush/Laura/Sean sold us the "perfect" conservative", we got a President who is pro-amnesty and, despite having the legal authority and funds, still hasn't built the fence, 10 trillion dollars of debt (most owned by China and the kindgdoms of the Middle East), Harriet Meirs, port security deals with those same kingdoms of the Middle East and a Secretary of Defense who tried to downsize the military much like he downsized every corporation and business he was in charge of. Then, in the waning moments of the primary contest, this trio of conservatism tried to sell us a "conservative" who, just 3 short years ago, was pro-abortion, pro-gay marriage, pro mandated state run health insurance, was not part of the Reagan legacy and running to the left of Ted Kennedy, while espousing that we should all look at McCain's record. Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me. McCain may not be a Rush/Laura/Sean conservative, but by judging by the record of the last Rush/Sean/Laura conservative, I'll take my chance with McCain.

Rob...
While the LA Times may have, "...endorsed McCain over the others."
I am NOT confused.
Galen is confused.
McCain was also endorsed (over the others) by The NYT...

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/25/opinion/25fri2.html

Who Made Them
Conversative god's????
I'm more conservative than any of the blowhards on talk radio..they are just radical bigheaded, out for attention...they are losing their ratings
and are to stupid to realize it.
Sean,Ann,Rush, Ingraham and the rest shut-up go sit in the corner and drink your Kool-Aide.

The only way conservatives lose is
if they give up. They know John McCain is not conservative. Vote for the true conservative!!!

Vote for Mike Huckabee!!! Check him out at:
http://www.MikeHuckabee.com

Hucakbee instead
I agree with your assessment of the pundits,but all along the experts have said Huckabee has no chance and he keeps proving them wrong. The people keep proving them wrong. Huckabee is a force the GOP needs to recognize.

John McCain, the liberal's conservative!
.

Mike Huckabee, the conservatives'
conservative. Conservatives, get over your pique that your choice did not win and coalesce around the only remaining true conservative.

Ask, are John McCain's positions closer to B.Hussein and Billary's or are they closer to Mike Huckabee's.

I think we can all agree the most accurate label for John McCain is left leaning moderate.

Galen really is condescending
but still has a way to go to beat McCain at that game. Galen may want to take some pointers:

When conservatives who have a reasonable expectation of a secure border, especially in wartime, object to being coerced into subsidizing, through taxation, the whole sale invasion of their sovereign nation – simply call them racists until their dissent is silenced.

When conservatives, who have consistently upheld the principles of their ideology, usually over a lifetime, object to supporting a candidate who has consistently and by design subverted this ideology – simply tell them to calm down.

When conservatives continue in their reluctance to support this candidate and it interferes with his expediency and the potential opportunities of the pundits and future cabinet members that may increase their own sphere of influence by supporting him – simply accuse them of being so weak and malleable that they are obviously doing the bidding of a few marginal talk show hosts.

Always remember that condescension, hostility, obfuscation and insults have worked so well for McCain in the past; now is the time to step it up!

Jewels
I am curious about your brand of conservatism. Please tell us what you believe in and what makes you think Sean, Laura, Rush and Ann are blowhards who are losing their audience.

A Wal-Mart Wobbie Wikipedia Posting
I am the all seeing, all knowing, Wal-Mart Wobbie Wikipedia. I have seen everything, done everything and I KNOW EVERYTHING! I’m a veteran of ALL The Armed Forces. I have flown EVERY PLANE, fired EVERY WEAPON and sailed EVERY SHIP in the US arsenal.

When I’m not busy SAVING THE WORLD and ENLIGHTENING THE IGNORANT, I like to relax with Wonder Woman, The Neoprene Nympho. All I need for Wonder Woman to make me happy is time, a tire patch kit and an air pump.

OOPS! My break is almost over and I wanted to get a Slurpee, take a ride on The Wal-Mart Helo, change my Depens and take my Meds. I’ll be back with more delusions of grandeur later.

Sometimes I feel like a nut, Sometimes I don’t

Wal-Mart Wobbie Wikipedia

Conservative Republicans, show the
mainstream media and the D.C. elite who run our Party. Reject John McCain and support Mike Huckabee in the primaries. John McCain cannot get another primary delecgate without the collusion of conservative voters in the Republican Party.

If John McCain wins the nomination, it will be the responsibility of conservatives, because we can still send him home wiping the "what might have been tears" from his eyes.

Conservatives are not quitters. If you do not vote to stop John McCain, you are pathetic examples of conservative voters.

OrlandoCajun
I wouldn't vote for Juan McMidget McAmnesty if he gave me a winning Powerball Ticket.

Advance the Cause
Conservatives have been scammed for years by the GOP just like African American voters have been taken for granted by the Democrat party.

The GOP got control of Congress in 1994. What have we gotten from "our" Congress?

Out of control spending, no-teacher-left-behind, earmark orgies, bridges to nowhere, open borders, etc.,etc.

But at least we got Alito and Roberts. At least we got a stronger military. At least we got the will to fight the jihadists.

We have been fooled by 75% of Congressional Republicans every two years who ran as Conservatives, but voted, not as Liberals, but as corrupt weasels.

We know McCain. He will not fool any Conservatives into believing he is one of us.

Here's the point: We will not lose the Party, because we haven't HAD the Party since Reagan. And compared to any Democrat, McCain IS Reagan.

Puh-leeze, do not let Hillary or Obama win by staying home or casting a protest vote. We cannot stand more Liberal judges, gutting of the military, cowardice on the world stage, Socialized medicine, NEA-based education, nanny state idiocy, you know the modus operandi.

How do we advance the Cause by retreating?

We advance the Cause by holding the line at the White House and getting serious about Congress. Replace the RINOs one by one until we can get some meaningful legislation passed.

In his SDI speech, Reagan said," It's up to us, in our time, to choose and choose wisely between the hard but necessary task of preserving peace and freedom and the temptation to ignore our duty and blindly hope for the best while the enemies of freedom grow stronger day by day."

The "totalitarians" and the "enemies of freedom" this time around are the Democrats. We cannot allow them to grow stronger and blindly hope for the best.

Love to all,

Salt

Reagan Legacy
I guess the only part of the Reagan Legacy that is followed, is the part where you back the nominee no matter who it is.

What about the rest of it?

Hmm
There have been many good points from both sides on this thread. For years now, a day of reckoning has been looming for the conservative movement. Much of this is based on how we define ourselves. This definition has been constantly narrowing. As a centrist, I was willowed out a while ago. Now it has reached the point where it either stops or the movement cracks.

orlandocajun re: "Robert"
or as I like to refer to him, "Frobusto", a contraction of "Fraud" Robert and his own disrespectful use of "Arbusto" to refer to our president.

Robert is the last person on the planet who should be taking anyone to task for dishonesty or "spin." Robert is the epitome of "spin".

This fraud has never, ever provided a scintilla of indisputable evidence to back up his numerous claims of career or life experience, yet he poses as the valiant for truth, justice and the American way.

And whenever he has backed himself into a corner, he suddenly develops a case of "gotta runs" or otherwise ignores the question.

He has been flat-out challenged by the likes of BrianR and has run for the exit at Mach 2.

Just the other day, he got caught referring to the Supreme Court as the "USSC". And as ANY military officer will tell you, the Court is ALWAYS referred to by the acronym "SCOTUS".

On such inconsistencies, Frobusto remains mute or has to (conveniently) abandon his computer for something important to national security (yeah, right!).

Robert, aka Frobusto, is nothing more than a proficient "Googler" who shills for the liberal left and lives in a pretend world where Walter Mitty is his hero.

Hey Robert! Now that Rush is "dead", are you going to stop using the word "strategery" - a word coined by Rush?

John McCain is not yet, nor does
he have to be the nominee of our Party. If conservative Republicans join together Mike Huckabee will be the nominee of our Party and we can quit worrying about McCain's liberal credentials.

Say what you will...
...but I am one registered Republican who will not vote for McCain.

I owe absolutely no allegiance to John McCain, or any other Republican, for that matter. I don't agree with him, therefore I don't support him, period. Beyond that, John McCain has gleefully betrayed "his" party time and time again; don't preach loyalty to me now.

I don't fear Hillary. I don't fear Obama. I don't need anything from the government. I'll survive. The nation will survive. There will be another election if four years. If there is a candidate at that time who will represent my views, that candidate will have my support.


Primus
Don't waste your time with this kid. He lives with mom and dad, does not have a job, and throws incendiaries from the cheap seats. Then, as you say, runs away when they are thrown back.

Galen you're nothing but...
...a weak centrist who is scared that we "Real" conservatives are on to you and want our party back.
Take your weak knee centrists comments back to your "has been" days and take your beatings like a man.
The conservatives deserve to punish this party and in fact need to establish its own and abandon the GOP forever.
What has the GOP done for any of us over the past 50 years? NOTHING!
They are so liberal now it's getting silly. GW is a lib and McCain is even more so. Let's be done with this party and get our own working and make the GOP a blip in the history books.

as much as some would like to believe
Sean, Rush and Laura

are not the "ordained" voice
of Christians, nor are they the
final voice of those who oppose
McCain.

The problem with the talking heads
(all of them) in this country is that
they JUST DO NOT UNDERSTAND normal,
everyday working Americans. The above
listed three included.

They have not convinced us that we do
not want McCain for our President, rather
it is US who have convinced THEM that we
do not want McCain for our President.

John McCain should be commended for his
Military service and continually is. This
record of service however does not afford
him the right to the Presidency or "bless"
him with the love and respect and support
of the conservative movement in this country
in his bid for the Presidency.

McCain for President?

NOT NOW, NOT EVER !


Ditto that
SAT Time
Rush, Sean and Laura are to Republicans as Code Pink Protestors are to Democrats.
*****************************************
I don't want either party controlled by the extreme zealots.

JF and the code pink drivel
We want a two party system NOT a single Republicrat party. We now have a left of center party and an extremely left of center party thanke to the Jellos.

Jellos are people that are squishy, no real character/values/standards, molded easily, easily filled with fruits and nuts, melt with a little heat, "moderates", quiver easily, transparent and lacking in any real substance.

For people like you, the constitution is a document refelctive of extreme zealotry.

In the last days good will be called evil and evil will be called good.

Huckster and McAmnesty are establishment robots and not only not conservative, but sell us out while they say they represent us. Mexican embassy rental in Arkansa for a $1 per year and in state tuition for illegals for Huck and McAmnesty - well everyone with a mind already knows his treachery.

speaking of jello
Jellos are people that are squishy, no real character/values/standards, molded easily, easily filled with fruits and nuts, melt with a little heat, "moderates", quiver easily, transparent and lacking in any real substance.
****************************************
You mean like Romney?

Tired of the smears
I'm tired of the smear campaign that is being waged against Limbaugh, Hannity, Ingraham, etc.

It's utterly stupid to think that just because these very able and smart talk-show hosts didn't jump on the McCain bandwagon, that they were "doing the work of the New York Times and the rest of the popular press by railing against McCain all day, every day.". That's just plain wrong. They have every right and responsibility to point out the many flaws of liberal McCain, and they spoke their minds. They were merely stating the facts and reasoning behind their opposition to McCain. The more liberal Republicans, the country clubbers such as Galen here, simply can't deal with the truth. The truth is that the time to argue about candidates is during primary season. Instead, people like him think we should just draw straws? or, go with who the "mainstream (meaning liberal) media" wants? NO, you go for who you believe in. I'm glad true conservatives like Hannity, Rush, Hewitt, Prager, Ingraham, etc didn't back down, even in the face of the smear attempts that were leveled (and still are) against talk radio, by the likes of Galen. By the way, my candidate was Thompson, and he had the best ideas but a lousy campaign...so we move on and go with the best of the remaining candidates. Even though I'm not a McCain supporter, I'll support him to the nth degree come Novemember, as Billary or Hussain Obama would be disasters.

JF Are you as accomplished as Romney
I think you saw yourself in the description, became offended by the truth and now you are reaching.

Funny you would think an accomplished business and government leader who is capable of growth through reflection and who is humble enough to admit a mistake and adjust his course is like you.? Navy ships, Fighters, Rangers, SEALS and even real civilian men and women are not too proud to make course corrections.

Romney is certainly no Reagan, but given your comments you are more interested in a Kennedy, Feingold, Reid, or Pelosi run compromise and you would hence make a perfect jello salad....yours with marshmallows I'm sure.

Keep Calling Us Names
I'm voting for Hillary in the primary and November. You compromising conservatives do what you want. Reward the most prominent RINO with your vote. See the next crop of RINO's in two to four years.

Juan McCain should be punished as a warning to other RINO's.

Free Speech
Since win is it a crime to say what you want? Except for McCain/Feingold we have free speech in this country.
I totally agree with Rush/Laura. In fact I had the opinions I do long before Rush/Laura said anything about it. IT IS ALL About the cause, our principles. I will not compromise with the wrong cause one inch. Sorry, McCain is on the wrong side and should be a Democrat. That is not Rush or Laura's faulth.
If Benedict Arnold would come out and promise NO AMNESTY, I might find it worth while to vote. As of now he side steps the issue and will not answer the question. Why should conservatives vote to have a conservative destroy the party. Amnesty and social benefits $$$ to 20 million illegal aliens will give the democrates 20 million more votes for more give a ways. That in and of itself will destroy the Republican Party. Is that what we vote for if we vote for McCain? If the Dems get the presidency it might only be destruction for 4 years, instead of forever. But, if they give amnesty too, then at least it will be Dems not Suicidal Republicans. Either way we can't win for loosing it seems like. I don't trust McCain.
Go Rush!

madison
do you believe that a McCain Presidency will be a glorious victory for democracy? just wondering, 'cause the way i see it, a vote for McCain IS a vote for everydarn thing Hillary and Obama stand for. Every major piece of legislation with Mc's name on it has been "far left" of center and always with liberal support. Why should we believe that his Presidency would be any different?

again, just wondering....??

Glenn Beck -Touching the Third Rail

Irrelevancies
Continually we are told how unimportant the Conservatives and talk radio are. Okay, we're unimportant. We're not going to support McCain, so why worry about it?

If we conservatives are so unimportant, if those radio talk show hosts are on the way out... why are so many liberal Republicans and other pundits so outraged or upset at our defection?
It's case of mind over matter; we supposedly don't matter, so you shouldn't mind.

Galen, boycott Rush et al. Don't listen to their shows. It doesn't matter, because I, and a lot like me, apparently, made up our minds about McCain BEFORE Rush et-al got on the bandwagon.
Romney was not a candidate a lot of us favored or even liked; he was the last chance, the last hope we had for someone we could support even half-heartedly.

Action vs. Rhetoric
I've gathered here to change all of you people's minds. Trust me now, I say, trust me now! Don't you here me? Don't judge me for what I've done, judge me for what I promise to do!

Words speak louder than actions, don't you know!

The man in the mirror
Open letter to Rich Galen:

While I respect your opinion in the matter of conservative talk radio, I am going to respectfully disagree with you.

For starters, as a lifelong conservative (note I did not say "Republican"), I have grown tired of having centrists candidates thrown in front of me and told to "fall in line." It's almost as if this is all a big ruse, with the centrist Republican establishment counting on our vote, because, "it's better than Hillary." Great...what a great campaign slogan..."We may not be conservative, but hey, at least we're better than Hillary!"

You can label me whatever you like, but I will never, NEVER pull the lever for John McCain, one of the biggest sell-outs in the long, storied history of the GOP. Now, that is not to say I will vote Democrat, for that is something I could never do. But I cannot in good conscious vote for a man who has done little to help, and much to harm, the principles which have guided conservatives their entire lives.

But the biggest insult is for folks like you to imply that it's all Rush, Sean and Laura's fault, like we are all just a mindless rabble of automatons, unable to think for ourselves, and waiting for our esteemed talk show pundits to "tell us what to do".

It is the arrogance and short-sightedness of party leaders which have left is in this state...don't you dare try to now blame it on us. Or worse, talk radio. Try looking in the mirror, for there will you find the answer.


reply to: bmr
I agree substantially with you... Reagan was quoted yesterday about how it is nice to be inclusive, but NOT at the expense of certain fundamental principles. As for the ILLEGAL invasion, I saw a McVain smirking in defiance at CPAC yesterday... he snidely says now "I'll build the damm wall" (if it will make them happy), but he calls it the "damm" wall... he thinks those who oppose ILLEGALS invading and pervading America are "racist," and he has said so.

I gotta' agree with you-- we CANNOT make voters of 20 million ignorant, indigent, culturally disparate or we will inexorably morph into a third world welfare state. It is IRRELEVANT that some Hispanic-Americans vote conservatively-- ILLEGALS are a whole different ilk, and will vote en masse for big government, and then insist that legal immigration policy accommodate their myriad indigent relatives. California has been lost to the invasion... America will become Mexico Norte.
Mexico's govt. is making us its welfare dept, aided by shills like Smilin' Juan Hernandez now working for Amnesty John.

Lodestar
Ronald Reagan signed an amnesty bill into law. He granted a no strongs attached amnesty to millions of illegals. You gonna call him Ronaldo Reagamnesty?

McFanatics' fear of the tiny minority
What on Earth is happening in here? Many a pundit and some in here argue that is is a tiny minority that listens to Rush et al yet seem to panic at the thought that this tiny minority will sit out this election. This doesn't make sense! After all, McCain can thank and then later on count on that there chunk of independents that helped him get them overwhelming vote numbers!

Rejoice, all McFans, and start hoarding champagne for that there McCain 2008 victory, don't you know!

McCain is who he is
The more republicans try to dress up McCain as someone he's not (conservative, the "successor" to Reagan) the more conservatives are tempted to stay at home. Mitt Romney showed a lot of class. McCain has played dirty and run a lot of propaganda.

His voting record the past few years puts him in the Democrat camp. Not to mention his temper or "my way or the highway" attitude he has in Washington. And there's this little problem that of all the running candidates in both parties he's the only one who's actively authored and pushed multiple pieces of legislation that openly subverts the US constitution.

Just get over it. The best you can do at this point is to run a "McCain isn't one of those Democrats" campaigns which might ultimately work.

McCain may be a despiccable character but he's not suicidal, and there's a somewhat likely chance he'll pick judges that aren't well versed in the Communist Manifesto.

Reagan was suckered
Millions more came after he signed off back in the 1980's on that there amnesty bill! Attention all citizens, attention! The powers-that-be are looking for eligible suckers, er, voters!

cjb56
cjb56 writes:
"Ronald Reagan signed an amnesty bill into law. He granted a no strongs attached amnesty to millions of illegals."

WRONG! Get your facts straight. He granted amnesty to about 1 Million WITH the understanding that the border would be enforced.

Try try, though.

finding a real conservative
First, I am what Republicans would call a social issue liberal, and I was adamantly opposed to the snooker job by the neoCONS that took out the wrong bad Islamics in Iraq so we could end up with permanent bases there for an ulterior agenda. That said, I worked in Reagan's campaigns, am a strong fiscal conservative and generally loathe govt. encroachment in our lives, am all for bombing true enemies IF it makes sense for AMERICA (as Daddy Bush did), and have voted solidly Republican for 35+ years.

Nixon said that a Rep. candidate for POTUS runs to the right to get the nomination, then tacks to the center to get elected. I think that Mitt IS fairly conservative as most would define it, but he lived in liberal Ma., which forced him to make accommodations.

Since at least 2000, Juan McAmnesty has run HARD LEFT. In 2006, there were 46 senators with more conservative voting records-- the other half were all 'Crats! McVain LIED about his amnesty agenda! Teaming with Feingold to restrict free speech was hardly conservative either. He just helped assure that Congress would pay ILLEGALS (regardless of pay-in) your S.S. It is NOT the imagination of conservatives that Amnesty John has defiantly poked his finger in our eyes... NOW he needs us... payback is a bi-tch!

A little Harsh
I think it is weak argument to call Rush motivation just in it for the money. Rush has done more to restore conservative is it the ironic point of destroying all Reagan stood for. In the past Conservatism stood for just protecting the Status quo; I believe Reagan and Goldwater moved conservatism to where it promoted principals of capitalism, limited Government, and individual liberty. Today conservatives like Rush, Laura and Lars Larson have abandoned these principals and push conservatism back to the dark ages of protecting status quo to where conservatism is no less statist that their liberal democratic rival. A good example is immigration. One can justify securing the borders. I neither see how preventing business owner to hire whom they want regardless of nation origin (no such thing as American jobs) and forcing English only rules on private property and businesses has any ting to do with limited government nor a constitutional amendment prohibiting two consenting adults for making a civil contract. I.e. civil unions.

Further more Conservative talk radio is living in it own bubble and total miss the changes in Republican Party and of Evangelicalism. Evangelicalism is mover more to the center unfortunately due to mega church a la church growth movement or influence of Rick Warren which result in a form of the social gospel I been told but many evangelical there are not happy with the immigrant bashing by conservatives.

reply to: cjb56
Reagan, with reluctance, was talked into Simpson-Mazzoli, which was a REAL con job from the pro-ILLEGAL ilk. They promised kick butt enforcement in exchange for a "one-time" amnesty for perhaps 1 million (which proved to be 3 million). Then, in bait-and-switch fashion, the enforcement parts were willfully never funded, as Teddy and the others chuckled to themselves eying those future democrat voters and government dependents, which was their agenda then-- and now.

Both Senator Simpson and Reagan would later say that it was the biggest mistake, and deepest regret, of their entire political lives.

By the way, the border crashing problem was minuscule under Reagan compared to the wholesale invasion which ensued once Presidente Jorge got elected (barely) and put out the word in Mexico: Bienvenido, amigos! Welfare too!

I can't believe anyone...
would refer to Rush or Hannity as heroes. What makes them heroes? Heroes come too cheap these days.

Another Song
Sing to the tune of "Independence Day"
by Martina McBride

Freedom will ring
when the right wing sinks
november 4th will be the day of reckoning
let the voters be strong
they know the right is wrong
roll talk radio away
or Republicans will pay
call it Independence day!

Romney
I have been torn apart by Romney suspending his campaign. I have reflected on the issue...I have the same conclusion as that what I started with....I can not vote for McCain. Everytime I think about that man.....he lies, cheats,has no values...he is with the dems....I will not change my mind and vote for McCain. I am too old now to let some liberals tell me I have to vote McCain.

Romney was the man for the conservative movement.
There should be an open convention...because McCain will not beat the dems....he has nothing it takes to unite the party. I will not lose my integrity!

cjb56
I had the same reaction as you to the post referring to rush et al as "heroes". If you like em, fine, but heroes?
That's going one too far.

primus54
You point out that there's a logical flaw in Galen's argument (that if they're flogging McCain for ratings, there must be alot of anti-MCain sentiment out there).
I don't know if you're right, but you are logical.

Of course, the specific talk show audiences would be very mad at McCain; they are the same audience that was very passionate about the immigration bill. So among that audience, it was a pretty sure bet that there would be alot of antiMcCainists.

I listen to talk radio once in awhile and sometimes it's interesting. I have almost never heard one for more than 30 or 40 minutes (depending on the commute) that I didn't disagree with at least some. What disturbs me about alot of Rush listeners is that I NEVER hear them say they disagreed with anything he said, listening to him every single day for years. Almost brainwashed.
I don't listen to him-tried a few times (big turnoff).

Wow. This blog is telling me that
talk radio manipulated all you pro-Romney anti-McCain zealots (amped you up) because it was GOOD RATINGS for the talk radio circuit (Rush, Laura, Dennis, Sean, Hugh) to do so.

The blog tells us it was "good ratings" & now they'll move on to something else.

They'll now move onto making the case for why John McCain should be president (Hillary! Obama! Universal Healthcare!), and presumably, you guys will now get amped up about supporting McCain to stop the dems.

To this blogger (& to a certain extent, talk radio) all you listeners out there in talk-radio-land exist only to be manipulated. They got you all whipped up about Thompson & Giuliani. Then, when that didn't work out, they got you all whipped up about Romney. NOW, they're gonna get you all whipped up about the last-man-standing, John McCain.

You guys are kind of like Pavlov's dog, salivating on cue. So much for conservatives "thinking for themselves".

wrightswrong52
What principles do you disagree with? Independence, freedom, limited government power? You write songs about as meaningful as my kindergartener.

Some Choice
It seems sad to me that yet again this election is coming down to who to vote against rather than who to vote for. McCain's best hope is enough of us independents will vote against Hilliary. With even a decent choice, I sure wouldn't vote FOR McCain.

Buck:
McCain doesn't need 95% of the conservative vote to win. I'm not sure he needs any (hardcore) conservative votes. Pick up the moderate republicans, the liberal republicans, the independants, a few conservative dems....

Social conservatives are a minority. I think McCain feels hardcore conservatives can be reasonably cut out of the equation (The new conservative model is John, Rudy, Arnold, Arlen Spector; the socially moderates. The fiscals. I guess now it's their turn).

Rush,Shawn, & Laura
Rich, you have had some good columns in the past, but even the good miss the point at times. You talk about the three conservative talk-show hosts as if they are saying something they haven't said before. All three are CONSERVATIVES, not REPUBLICANS at any cost. I will trust their opinions above yours any day, Rich. I wonder, will you apoligise when you are proven wrong?

Mississippi
Mississippi isn't all that either--it has Tunica and the Gulf Coast..casinos, etc.

I guess they could move to Tupelo though out in the north central hills--its bigget claim to fame is the birthplace of Elvis, the HQ of the Nachez Trace and the home of Rev. Wildmon--the idiot that goes around and tries to get Playboy and Penthouse banned. He is a shrimp of a man and has this whiney little voice. I bet he got beat up when he was a kid--probably explains alot. They could move there.


Sean has been very positive about
not voting for a democrat. Why are you lying?

I like talk radio, but they do influence my vote, otherwise I might have listened to the weasel, medved, McCain's amnesty cheerleader.

At this point, I can't see voting for him, because of the obvious reasons, and in addition, his personality and demeanor makes my skin crawl.

Presidents come and go and good solid, taxpaying citizens remain.

So, QUIT telling us how to think and vote.

Gramm, Graham, Kemp et al. (the about 70 crowd) shoved him down our throats, so live with your HORRIBLE choice!

Bush Appointees Can Wait Forever
Bush and his cohorts have been insulting the conservative base for years, saying we "do not want what's right for America," and calling us bigots, because we opposed his illegal alien amnesty schemes. Now the administration is whining that it can't get political insiders appointed to bureaucratic positions, because the Democrats are holding everything up. If Bush's buddies want a job so bad, I suggest they apply for one of those jobs Bush always says "Americans won't do." It would lack the cushy, taxpayer-supported prestige of Washington, but at least they'd be earning an honest living. In the meantime, don't expect any sympathy from conservatives on this issue.

Rich
You just do not get it. Rush is the straight talk express. McCain just uses that phrase as a cover up.

Cons. need to remember
that as imperfect as McCain may be to them, the alternative is a Dem. admin, with a Dem. Cong. that will have no incentive not to impose the entire liberal agenda from gay marriage to military humiliation in the Middle East on everyone.

Neither Dems. campaigning now have any sense of danger from Islamic militants or spending what's left of Soc. Sec. and Medicare to support a gadzillion other pie-in-the ideas. Remember, Hillary says she has so many ideas the US can't afford. In fat, the SU can't afford any of her ideas and shouldn't have to.

Talk Show Host make Valid Points
Mentioning just Rush, Sean & Laura is shortchanging all of the others. Glenn, Michelle, Mike, Ann, and many more are all articulate, knowledgeable, conservative Americans.

They provide great insight and valuable commentary.

They point out the good, the bad, and the ugly in all of the candidates. I have found very little disagreement with any of them - one exception, I won't vote for Hillary, Ann.

Most of their listeners are independent minded conservatives. I , oftentimes, feel that they have reinforced what I was already believing.

Confirmation is good.

I will end up voting for McCain and not liking it, but the Hillary/Obama alternative will do much greater damage for many years to come.

What worries me the most is another 9/11 or 9/11's occurring in 2009, because our military response will be perceived as not forthcoming under a democratic government.

How quickly we forget how Carter was manipulated by Iran (444 hostages). The day of President Reagan's inauguration - they were released. Ask yourself - Why?

Candidates that I have more trust in are - Romney, Thompson, Hunter & Tancredo.
We need to make sure that they stay in politics and many more like them. That is our task now, cultivate more of these voices.


SandMan, you said
"Note Rich Galen's bio

"Rich Galen has been a press secretary to Dan Quayle and Newt Gingrich. He currently is a senior adviser to Fred Thompson's presidential campaign and writes at Mullings.com"

Someone needs to tell Rich that Thompson dropped out of the race."

You mean the race that Thompson never really ran? Perhaps BECAUSE he was being advised by Galen? Galen, most likely just another one of the GOP elites. The same ones that decided, way back in 2000 that McCain would be the 2008 nominee (as retribution to McCain for throwing him overboard for Bush in 2000?) Makes one wonder.

Rush and gang...

Are simply pushing for a conservative VP. They are pressuring McCain to turn right.

Don't count Mitt out... He's what they want in.

Mitt dropped out for good reason :)

turn off the radio
Rush, Sean, Ingram, and the "great one" (ha ha) Levin, have made this election all about them. They talk out of both sides of their mouths. They think they are gods of the conservatives and us mere mortals need to hed their advice because we can't think for ourselves. Galen is completely correct. I think it's time talk radio had a revolution. These talk show bobble heads are sactimoniuos, self-rightuos, ego maniacs. You not truly be a conservative and actually vote for a socilist just because you disagree with the nominee. John Mccain is the best person out of the candidates that we have to lead the country. You work with the hand you are dealt with. These pundits are acting more like a spoiled Britney Spears than as cnservative talk show hosts. Maybe we can have them commited (or take their kool-aid away).

cjb56
I couldn't have said it better myself. The idea that these pundits are "conservatives" is a joke. They need to move to the South where the heartland of Conservatism and red state America is, and get a good whiff of true Conservatism before they're put back on the radio clamoring for the same people as the diehard Democrats of NYC.

Danny
Regarding your 6:35 post:

I think you meant 444 days / 52 Americans, regarding the "Iranian" hostage crisis........under possibly the worst American president this country has ever seen: Jimma Cah-duh (sic).

Danny
BTW, the "inaction" (other than Operation Eagle Claw)of Jimma Cah-duh during the Iranian Hostage crisis is EXACTLY what we can expect from B. Hussein Obama.

It Is Rush Limbaugh's Fault
Rush, Sean, Laura, and Mark are the ones who caused John McCain, by supporting all the wrong people. They just could not bring themselves to support a conservative. First Rudy, then Fred, then Mitt, none of whom could win conservative states.

It is their fault that John McCain is so close to the nomination now.

The Conservative Talk Show Set
is on board with those conservatives such as my self who still think honor, integrity and truth mean something Mr. Galen. Quite unlike McCain who is neither conservative, honorable nor truthful. I will continue to listen to people who have the same theology of freedom, religion and morals I have irregardless if they are beating up on McCain or not. They are telling the truth about a little napoleon complex dictator who for now will tell the Republicans what they want to hear and as soon as power is bestowed upon him stab them in the back as he has done more often than not for the last 25+ years.

Keep it up, Galen...
All you folks who are telling the conservatives to quiet their mouths. I'm sure if the Democrats get to have their way with a President McCain, McCain-Feingold will be expanded, and then you won't have to listen to us anymore.




the sky is falling
says talk radio. We can't vote for Huckabee because he is not conservative ENOUGH! Projecting the idea that he was "taking" votes from Romney. The idea that we really want McCain is looneytoons. Topped off with a notion that we would vote for him if Huck got on the straight EiBS express. We will prove it if we have to. You clowns have such a reign on the Romney vote you don't really need us anyway. Which is kinda why sniffed out your bigotry LDS stuff.

You are going to go ahead and prove that a vote for ROmney is a delagate for McCain!!!

I abstain!!!

McCain's executive experience...
--
...peaked in 1974, when he took command of VA-174, the East Coast A-7 Corsair II Navy training squadron stationed at Naval Air Station Cecil Field outside Jacksonville, Florida and the largest attack squadron in the Navy.

Note that VA-174 was a training squadron. McCain never commanded in combat.

But despite an effective job done in turning around VA-174, McCain's efficiency reports obviously never recommended his promotion to any higher post. From 1976 to 1981, he served in a number of liaison posts. He finally read the handwriting on the wall and (bitterly, for the son and grandson of prominent admirals and a career Naval officer), he left the service.

Since then, though described as "a footsoldier in the Reagan Revolution," John McCain has never held a leadership role - except in the Keating Five.

I'd say he'd "Peter Principled" at squadron commander.

His efficiency reports (which I understand he'd gotten classified and which are beyond Freedom of Information Act petition) almost certainly assesed him as unsuited for more responsible roles.

I have to go with McCain's rating officers.

He's unfit for the job he's antsing for, and it'd be best for the nation if he doesn't get it.


----------------------
"I’d love to be remembered as a Goldwater Republican. But I don’t pretend in any way to live up to the legacy of the man who literally changed the face of politics in America."

-- John McCain


Brokered Convention only hope
Fight McCain to the end. Vote principle for Paul or Huckabee if you must. Neither can win so it doesn't matter, but forces delegates to find acceptable alternative candidate or a coalition administration. sounds crazy but it beats having a male version of Hillary. He is not the nominee yet don't allow fox to preempt your vote. Rush et allii are staying true to principle we ought to do the same.

1Responder

Good point. Rush endorsed a candidate, Mitt Romney, "after" he lost Super-Tuesday?

If these guys were to endorse a month ago with the rest of us... Mitt would be in.

I voted for Romney in Michigan... Back when "Conservatives" were still calling him a "flip-flopper".

I guess Rush and company finally caught up with us.

So much for their insight :)


Excellent Column
Excellent column, Mr. Galen. Hopefully, your words will sink into the thick heads of Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity and Laura Ingraham.

Talk Radio and Mitt Romney
Want to know something interesting? With all the bellyaching going on by Laura, Rush, and Sean, I discovered something. Where were they when Governor Romney was a virtual unknown in the beginning of the race?

You can't fault Hugh Hewitt for the lack of support behind Romney early on but Rush, Sean, Laura, and Mark Levin all sat on their hands until it was too late to stop McCain.

They left McCain's campaign for dead but then complained so much about the lack of a real conservative in the hunt. The whole time, though, Romney was right in front of their eyes yet they and the "base" refused to embrace him. This paved the way for McCain to rise from the ashes and reinvigorate his campaign.

I love Sean, Laura, and to a lesser extent Rush, but I place full blame on them for sitting on the sidelines and not supporting the best candidate until the last minute. If they had rallied around him from the beginning, we would be having a much different campaign.

Now Romney will have to wait until 2012 just like Reagan did in 1976. Don't worry though, he will be back with a vengeance and trounce every other candidate in the field.

Also, McCain is a true conservative and I will fully support him. He is a great candidate. Remember, I was a Mitt Romney up until 2 weeks before Super Tuesday. The party is more important than disagreements with Sen. McCain.

To Cold Hard Truth
Re your suggestion that the MSM are dwelling on Republicans trashing Republicans, let's look at what has happened. When Bush I was in power, Rush Limbaugh was made an honorary member of Congress. When Bush II came to power, Rush Limbaugh was given a big share of credit for selling Bush II to the public. Rush Limbaugh is known to be one of the major shapers of right-wing public opinion, which puts Republican presidents in power. So don't you think it's newsworthy when Rush Limbaugh now says of the Republican front-runner "this man is defiling the American way of life"? (I am paraphrasing but that's pretty much what he said). If something is news, the MSM report it. That's their job. I guess you would prefer them to suppress any news that makes your side look bad.

Warning to John McClaine
Ignore Robert if you value your sanity.
He's the Townhall resident idiot. He has no clue what he's talking about and is really a FAR LEFT Whacko trying to make us think he's a "Reagan Conservative."

The problem is that every "conservative" thing he says goes directly opposite of the way Reagan thought and conducted his life.

McCain
is more like "Fat George" rather than Louis XVI.

We merely separated ourselves from Fat George. The French felt compelled to execute Louis.

We aren't that desperate yet.

NOT THEIR JOB to GET JOHN elected
all of you corrupt insiders, power brokers
to played all of the cheap dirty sleazey
politics to get MCCAIN

YOU GO GET HIM ELECTED:

WE WILL NOT bend over so low that we sink below bottom with you:

Not the job of rush, laura, sean to get
ANYONE elected:

They are out entertainment, our beacon:

we can all decide for ourselves

THE GOP needs a serious ROUT to finally
clean house of the Sleaze like McCain and his corrupt Power brokers:

WE ARE SO FED UP with bending lower and lower
and lower every year
Larry Craig
TOm Foley
Bigot Huckabee
Liar McCain
etc.

OUR CHECKBOOKS are closed for now:

FRANKLY we are smart enough to know all of you GOP "INSIDERS" didn't get it done in McCain's 25 years WHAT ON EARTH makes you believe that
you will do what is best for US this TIME:

WE KNOW the score: We know what McCain is:

Well DUH, U said ONLY McCain beats HIL
WHY IN THE WORLD DO YOU NEED US:: ??

YOU told the voters that they had to
selecect McShame the LIAR because he was
the only one who could beat Hillary

WELL:::: more TALK ????? YOU THINK

SHOW us that McCain can beat Hillary
and or Obama

YOU CORRUPT insiders have shoved it down
our throats for months NOW

the McCain is down in that poll
and Hillary and Obama beat him
75- 25 a LANDSLIDE

NOW you "corrupt power brokers are " crawling on hands and knees to US

WELL, we want to see if McShame can beat
Hillary and obama

WE have NO NEED TO HELP

Call: Crist, Lindsay: Jeb: Arnold etc.
call the scam artists

Lindsay, Crist, Jeb Bush, Arnold, etc.

They are experienced at corruption and under
the table deals:

LOSE OUR number: we really do not care
this time:
shoving Liar bigot McCain, Huckabee down
our throats

democrats elected McCain, he can get his cash and foot soldiers to win from them

Rush does NYT work??
Thats like saying Paris Hilton studied at Harvard!!!

McCain has picked these fights with Conservatives and we are to blame. McCain routinely cussed out Republican Senators who do not support his legislation and we are to blame. He "Wins" Republican Primaries with 33% of the vote and he is our choice yet we are to blame.

I get it now!! Sure I do, MCCain has brought this on himself and we are to blame. Sounds a lot like Bill and Hillary!!

Never
Mr. Galen insults conservatives if he thinks talk show hosts dictates our vote. McCain lost conservative support because he is a liberal on far too many issues. While talk radio highlighted his record, McCain created the record.

Perhaps Mr. Galen isn't aware, but conservatives believe in taking responsibility for one's action. Conservatives believe in consequences. McCain will lose the election. This is how it should be. Consequences.

McCain, moderates, Independents, & Dems
Which camp would you like to be linked to. The camp of Conservatism with Rush, Sean, and Laura. Or the camp with McCain, moderates, the uninformed Independents, and the weak Democrats. A lot of attention is being paid to talk radio, but it's not talk radio, the Republicans, or any Conservative that has divided the party the way McCain has. In McCain speeches, there is one thing he never forgets to leave out. He will not change for the party no matter what. He has stated that he is going to reach out to those outside of his party to be President. If McCain reached acrossed the aisle and sided with the Democrats against his own party, it's nothing new that McCain would side step his own voters, and seek the votes of those who have labeled him a Maverick. Rush, Sean, and Laura are not doing the work of any liberal rag. The damage has already been done. That's why and how McCain got the nomination. It was the Democrats and the media who got McCain the nomination with their appeal for McCain. No one in talk radio woke up one day and said hey let's attack McCain. The nomination of McCain proved only one thing. There is a liberal wing of the party. McCain's goal is not to unite the party, but change the party to that the party thinks like moderates, uninformed Independents, and weak Democrats.

McCain
I just can't vote for the guy. It has nothing to do with what the talk show entertainers say. I came to my conclusion on my own by watching all the debates (instead of reading the second-hand analysis of the debates) and reading up on the candidates' histories and positions. I preferred Romney but I could have voted for almost any of the other candidates, including Huckabee (I'm assuming McCain has the nomination). It was a happy coincidence that the talk show hosts came to the same conclusion as I did. Believe me, I disagree a lot with what talk radio hosts say.

I think if you really think McCain is so great then support him! Just don't expect everyone to agree with you.

Beautiful!
jdw writes: "Continually we are told how unimportant the Conservatives and talk radio are. Okay, we're unimportant. We're not going to support McCain, so why worry about it?"

Exactly! You MUST be worried if you have to keep telling people who won't vote for McCain how unimportant we are. Although, strangely enough, it must mean we ARE actually...dare I say it...important?!

The Republicans will be blown out
by the candidacy of John McCain, the liar. The conservatives have already been screwed by his presumtive nomination.

Talk Radio Has Become a Joke
Talk Radio has lost almost all of its credibility and it's going to take alot of work to get it back. The first thing that Sean, Glenn, Laura and all those other talentless hacks need to do is apologize for the way that they treated Mike Huckabee in this election.

Rush, Sean and Laura
Hal TC writes:

I detect a lot of sour grapes in Galen's writing.
He had a good candidate who ran a horrible campaign, so I guess Galen is trying to redirect his share of the blame!

As for McCain, I will never vote for him either.
I served for over 22 years during Korea and Vietnam, and if being incarcerated as a POW makes someone a hero, there are a lot of heroes more qualified to be President that he is. Just remember, Benedict Arnold was a hero too . . before he turned into a traitor!

How long do you think it will be before the Dems include the You Tube video in one of their campaign commercials? You know. The one where McCain calls Putin the "President of Germany." This guy is so old that he forgot that Putin runs Russia and Germany is governed by a Chancellor! I can just visualize McCain in a debate with Obama, can't you? That is going to be brutal!

My advice to Galen is to thank his lucky stars for people like Rush, Sean and Laura because without them, this country would probably go
Socialist . . . like the Democrats want it to!

McCain Own Words Will Be His Downfall
Rich,

If it were not for Rush, Sean, and Laura, McCain-Kennedy would have become law and Miers and Gonzales would be supreme court justices instead of Roberts and Alito just to mention a couple of contributions they and their listeners have made.

Your call for these conservative icons and their listeners to turn on a dime and support McCain who has proudly made a career of poking a finger in their eyes shows how little you understand them. They actually have conservative principles and passions that motivate them to support candidates with similar convictions--ironically, I would expect you to know that as a former member of Fred Thompson's team.

I predict that McCain will fail in the fall, not because of talk radio, but because of his hubris, lack of grace, and his own big mouth. As long as McCain was a media darling he was given a free pass for some of his glib and reckless straight talk; however, that is about to come to an end.

As we start sliding into a recession later this year, watch for the campaign slogan of the Democrat candidate to once again become “It’s the Economy Stupid.”

Bill Clinton had George H.W. Bush for lunch on the economy, and McCain will do even worse. His incoherent ramblings about the economy and talk of doing a “Weekend at Bernie’s” routine with Greenspan are already in the public domain and show him for an economic neophyte.

If Iraq remains stable and we continue to remain safe at home, any attempts by McCain to focus on defense will make him look as if he is trying to shift the focus from the economy and his inability to articulate a coherent economic plan.

What will McCain offer as a new direction on the economy that will capture those like-minded Democrats for whom he is looking? Here are some of his options: I voted against Bush’s tax cuts too; I’m for massive carbon taxes too; and I hate the rich more than you do.

Rush/Sean: Sailing a ship on fire
The conservative talk radio I listened to for almost 18 years has gone completely off the deep end.

Like lemmings on a burning ship, Rush, Sean and the assorted B-team of conservative radio have launched another self-destructive jihad against a less than perfect conservative.

We are left with McCain. He is not the best conservative, but he is far better than Hillary or Obama.

Time to stop drinking the Kool-aid my fellow conservatives, circle the wagons, and focus on what stands to be lost if Hillary or Obama end up in the White House.

DZiegler - And what stands to be lost..?
--
...if (by some miracle) McCain pulls down more than a dozen electoral votes and somehow yanks an electoral victory out of his cloaca on November 4th?

Let's go with a "not a hound's chance in hell" speculation on that possibility.

We get a (nominally) Republican administration in the White House that hews to lines of domestic and foreign policy foreshadowed by legislative accomplishments like McCain-Feingold and McCain-Kennedy.

We get a (nominally) Republican president who's going to follow his prior tendencies and will thus slip even *MORE* disgracefully to the left (as Ann Coulter observes: "He's 71 years old; he's not going to change"), leaving conservatives with a situation in which the Republican remnant in Congress will - out of party loyalty, the poor, impotent idiots - support their travesty of a leader to the detriment of everything truly conservative for which the Republican Party has ever stood.

We get a Republican Party that becomes a Nixonian stench in the nostrils of the American people, intimately associate with an "economic downturn" (i.e., a recession in everything but its press releases) that will leave in the collective American mind an irrevocable Herbert Hoover-ish identification with economic befuddlement and administrative incompetence.

A McCain presidency would be *WORSE* for both the Republican Party and the nation as a whole than Clinton Redux.

That's because the Republican Party would stop being the alternative to Democrat arrogance and stupidity and *BECOME* Democrat in everything but name.

So let's have the '08 Republican presidential campaign slogan, all right?

"John McCain - An Echo of an Echo of an Echo...."

--

Dems win with Three little words
>"...leaving the (Dem) nominee only a couple of
>months to accomplish that feat on the Dem side.

The Dems will win with these three words:

George W Bush

No one wants a continuation of the worst president in modern history, next to Nixon and Warren G. Harding, both Republicans. Ironically like Bush, Harding was an OIL MAN (teapot dome scandal).

Oh Yea Reagan, 1986, signed the Immigration Reform and Control Act (IRCA), which gave amnesty to approx 4 million illegal immigrants.

George H Bush raised taxes.

Yea those Republicans are great. I seem to recall peace and prosperity with Clinton. Stay home you whiny babies, no cares if vote or not. The right wing drive by media is irrelevant. The BASE does not control the GOP or elections.

That democracy and voting thing is a bummer to you fascist.

A McCain future
Let's examine McCains stance on issues.

Guantanamo - Although the detainees there have been catered to on the level of country club members, McCain feels it is a national disgrace and should be closed. Lets all expect hundreds of O.J type trials with sleazy defense lawyers using loopholes in the law to free most of these terrorists to continue to kill Americans.

Freedom of speech - We well know, due to McCain-Fiengold, free speech is a minor obsticle that can be set aside to further his goals. If free speech is tnat meaningless to him what constitutional right can we expect to be set aside next on a McCain whimsey.

The environment - He has concluded the global warming alarmists are correct and will delve into laws and regulations that will destroy productivity, burden our economy with restrictive regulations and possibly approve the Kyoto treaty, which has already been proven will cost America trillions of dollars and reduce us to a third world country. He compares ANWAR to the Grand Canyon. Apparently he has never seen ANWAR, it is a barren wasteland.

Waterboarding - It is a non-lethal non-harmful but very effective method of obtaining information that our special warfare troops experience in the course of their training. It is so safe that anti torture activists performed it on one of their own on national TV trying to prove Lord knows what. McCain calls this torture and wants it banned.

Immigration - Give every illegal amnesty. Who cares they are criminals for illegally entering this country in the first place.

Judges - If not for McCains gang of 14 there would be hundreds more conservative judges setting on the bench right now instead of being held up by the Dems.

So all you "loyal Repulicans" go ahead and vote for him. As a loyal conservative I'll pass

What utter nonsense!
Talk radio hosts and other conservatives don't want McCain to lose. We want conservatism to win. We are loudly giving him the feedback that he needs in order to win our support. If he chooses to ignore it, we will repeat ourselves, perhaps more loudly and more clearly. And until he "gets" it, we will actively support those candidates who do whether at a local or state level, or for US congress.

Rich Galen
More of the same Republican Country Club spin. Rich, you can forget about the conservative vote if you keep up the class warfare. McCain and guys like you have made your beds and you will pay the price for it if you can't got over yourselves. You better get ready for the unemployment line if you want to force your liberal ideas and plans down our throats - regardless of party name!!!

Rich, you're wrong.
I've been against the lying oathbreaker John McCain for years.

And frankly, this country has proven it wants socialism.... and should get all it wants, "good and hard", as Mencken would say.

After the Donks, unlike a real Republican Congress (under Clinton) and a somewhat Republican President (at least Bush knew enough economics to realize you can't tax your way to prosperity), have turned this country into 1980s Rssia, spiced with a few mushroom clouds from those "imaginary" Iranian nukes, maybe Americans will have enough contrary evidence to return to our founding principles and hang Socialists from lampposts.

"Experience keeps a dear school, but fools will learn at no other." Poor Richard.

And The Gods Of The Copybook Headings always have their due:

"As it will be in the future, it was at the birth of Man --
There are only four things certain since Social Progress began --
That the Dog returns to his Vomit and the Sow returns to her Mire,
And the burnt Fool's bandaged finger goes wabbling back to the Fire --
And that after this is accomplished, and the brave new world begins
When all men are paid for existing and no man must pay for his sins
As surely as Water will wet us, as surely as Fire will burn
The Gods of the Copybook Headings with terror and slaughter return!"

McCain, Oama, or Hillary ...
it won't make a whit of difference. Legislation such as the Fairness Doctrine, higher taxes, socialized medicine and open borders are a done deal.
We are citizens of the world now. Fortunately, folks like the Chinese and Russians and Muslims aren't going along with the New World Order. Sometimes your enemies are the best friends you can hope for.

Tal Radio Needn't Worry
Talk Radio reflects the voice of the people who listen to it. When that medium no longer reflects that voice, people will go elsewhere. If I were Fox News I'd be worried about my ratings but talk radio? I don't think so.


following lemmings off a cliff.
Galen's hypothesis is that Limbaugh, Coulter, Ingraham, et al, are hyperventilating with rage over McCain primarily because it will gin-up their ratings.

I don't believe that is the reason.

They are zealots, true believers, who have a forum. And they often have influence on elections, at least in the past.

However, it appears that the American public by and large is tuning them out, if recent results are any indication. McCain did well on "Super Tuesday" despite the pontifications of Limbaugh and others.

I used to be a faithful listener to Rush Limbaugh.

But his rank hypocrisy in excoriating McCain, while turning a "blind eye" to G.W. Bush, for holding identical positions became intolerable. That, and his inability to ever criticize Bush specifically on Iraq, finally did it for me.

I am not impressed by his political analysis, but I have to give him credit for being extremely successful.

His flock is so gullible that they may well follow him off a cliff into political oblivion in their pure zealotry in being faithful to what they claim to be "principles", even if at the expense of our beloved republic.

No Standards
Party Person

When I see conservatives
Bashing McCain, it makes me think they are on a ladder with their neck in a noose and screaming I'll fix you, as they shoot themselves in the foot.
Folks it is all about the SCOTUS, who do you want selecting your judges for the next 20 years or so? Billary/Obama or McCain?

"conservatives"
As a TRUE CONSERVATIVE it simply amazes me the ignorance being spewed here and by that fat dope head that boney witch and that snot nosed silver spoon.A conservative puts 2 things FIRST and that is GOD AND COUNTRY not this sniveling silver spoon "What about me,What about me".You nit-wits sound like the welfare base of the loonie-left.It is this trend that should scare ALL conservatives because we are fortunate that the "greatest generation"(true conservatives)were SMART to put GOD AND COUNTRY first just who among the silver spoons will do this?NONE that who!They spend theyre days in luxury and cry like babies when theyre delusional moron cant win.We had 1 TRUE conservative Duncan Hunter but where was all these "conservatives" when he NEEDED you?WHERE?So keep up your delusional lies about being a conservative real Americans see right thru it.You sound like a bunch of cry babies "WAH! WAH!".I will NEVER vote against MY PARTY you and your boney witch and fat dope head can live in your fantasy worlds.

SDN writes it as well as it can be put
"A house divided cannot stand." Does that mean anything to conservatives out there? I can't believe I'm hearing people say we should turn the White House over to the liberals, maybe that would teach us a lesson. Bull! It took almost twenty years to undo the Jimmy Carter mess and we're still living with the consequences of the Johnson's War on Poverty. Are we to be fools and go through that again? Talk about a dog returning to his vomit!

Besides the economic debacles sure to visit us with either Hillary or Barak, the long-term structure of the Supreme Court will be altered for many generations to come. All this because conservatives were not happy with McCain? Before you listen to the talking heads and the liberal plants out there who are spouting all this garbage about how liberal McCain is...LOOK AT HIS VOTING RECORD. He IS conservative. At least he is not a Marxist Commmunist as Hillary has as much told us herself, and he is not going to cry in front of world leaders if they threaten us with a nuclear bomb. I can't see Mccain amassing the FBI records on important people in this country as Hillary did. I don't see forced National Health programs where we all end up standing in line at the free clinic for our only source of medical care. Geez people, WAKE UP! Either you vote for McCain(or whoever the nominee for the GOP may be) or you guarantee the worse economic and foreign policy disasters we have ever endured. Staying at home is a vote for Hillary or Barak. The damage they do could undo the whole structure of the government as we know it. Don't be fools, don't stay home in November folks, not on this one. It's too important.

oldwcolumbia

Good points.

Rush and gang are too liberal for me. They are just self-centered, self-absorbed, drug-infested, money-focused, Atheists.

Rush rants about McCain, but has supported open-border-Bush for 7 years?

I just can't trust a rich fat single guy with a Cuban cigar in his mouth. Think about it... Rush is flakey.

Ohg Rea Tone on Demise of Rush Limbaugh
People are getting tired of Rush Limbaugh. They are tired of him threatening and shaming to get his abused spouse to stay home.
Ohg
http://thefiresidepost.com/2008/01/31/ohg-rea-tone-on-demis e-of-rush-limbaugh/

Gunnysez - ''A house divided...''
--
"...cannot stand."

And a house with a red light over the door is someplace where you can only get screwed.


If we conservatives "calm down" (McCain expects us to do this without drugs?), bend over, and act as if we *ENJOY* the prolonged sodomization a McCain presidential campaign represents, what the hell happens to our credibility when he "does a Dole" into defeat and we can drop the "grin-and-bear-it" facade to start articulating conservative principles again?

Sorry, but you've got to think about the Republican Party the way manufacturers think of their brand names.

Are we going to let John McCain "New Coke" the GOP into "Socialist Lite" this year?

And if he *WINS* (like that could happen!), how the hell are the real Republicans in Congress going to be able to oppose the damage McCain will try to do to the nation at large?

A McCain presidency would set us up for a more gross and godawful degradation of the U.S. Constitution than anything that even Obama (by far the more explicitly socialist of the two remaining Democrat excuses for presidential candidates) could pull out of his cloaca.


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"I'd love to be remembered as a Goldwater Republican. But I dont pretend in any way to live up to the legacy of the man who literally changed the face of politics in America."

-- John McCain

robert
Rush says, "How about a reach around next time bro?" As long as you fools underestimate the power of guys like rush ,savage and hannity, the power only grows.Truth is wobbie that your the rube here. The rnc and msm would love to diminish the power of talk radio. Remember how we shoved the amnesty bill up their a..E$? They sure haven't , you think (like the a.$ who wrote this article) that this spells the end of talk radio. Well hope springs eternal, but apparently so does stupidity.Funny how the one time the talkers failed to impact the outcome of something , it is their "end" But they are never given credit for the "wins" i don't always agree with any of the talkers but compared to washington, they speak the words that keep me sane.It is funny you never hear dr Savages name brought up? He may be the most"dangerous" of them all. But he speaks the truth ,like it or not.As far as increasing ratings by railing against juan mcshame, i got tired of that after 2 days and put the music on , so nice try. No soap mr Galen. You are a partison hack! Everyone think conservative senators etc...go vote in november (write in)and keep your powder dry.

Proving that Dem/libs are miserable
creatures. We cons are going to vote for Hillary/Obama and give you and the mods what you want and you STILL are gonna complain.

Hey El Caminos?!
Who is the tall, dark stranger there?
Maverick is the name.
Ridin' the trail to who knows where,
Luck is his companion,
Gamblin' is his game.
Smooth as the handle on a gun.
Maverick is the name.
Wild as the wind in Oregon,
Blowin' up a canyon,
Easier to tame.


Have fun reaching across the aisle for those Dem/lib votes. Just call us "Mavericks"

SJ Doc

"I'd love to be remembered as a Goldwater Republican. But I dont pretend in any way to live up to the legacy of the man who literally changed the face of politics in America."

-- John McCain
____________________________________

That is called Humility. A Conservative Value. A sign of Honesty, Virtue, and Grace.

John keeps trying. A sign of a Hero.

SDN
That has got to be Kipling. Am i right? Sure soounds like him, at the very least.

"fools will learn in no other". I used to have a calender with a picture of a sad chimpanzee saying " Some of us learn from the mistakes of others. Some of us have to be the others". It looks to me as if this country is getting a few too many others.

Rush, Sean, and Laura...
have lost me as a listener. They, and their lemming followers, have been as pathetic as the lefties who consider Bush the enemy, not Saddam Hussein or the terrorists.

Michael M., Dennis M., and Bill B. are much better shows.

what do you Mods think?
When McCain has all that power, will he become more conservative or more liberal?

hahahahaha.

No thanks. Let's have the real thing: Hillary/Obama

Rush the Drama Queen...

I have never met a man who constantly babbles about sexual preferences and perversions... Who is not a pervert himself.

When will straight Conservatives realize that "reach-around Rush" is not what he pretends to be? Every time I hear Rush, he is making a lurid sexual reference.

Think of men that talk like that in your own lives... And then realize that you never let them near your children.

Pull the wool out of your eyes people!


Just like Dem/libs
Mods are blaming the wrong people. And they are using personal attacks instead of discussing the issues.

Way to go El Caminos!

One Gone- No# 2 out - Three is all I got
I voted for Fred first but he fell like a rock.
Then I pulled for Mitt because I don't like John
McCain and his liberal tendenceies. Now all I have left is John McCain. But for the life of me,
I could never vote for a Democract. I believe that all the real republicans will return to their conservative ways and vote for John McCain
even if we can't personally stand him as a leader in the republican party. Nuff Said?

RICH GALEN IS AN IDIOT
As stated above Galen was a "senior" adviser to Fred Thompson's campaign. Fred Thompson was the only true conservative along with Duncan Hunter. Now this idiot Galen is selling out to the real conservative base. It shows how easily he is swayed by the Washington elites that are trying to shove McCain down our throats. Look at the endorsements McCain is getting, all liberal Republicans who cannot afford to have their liberal agendas exposed to fully as they will surely be out of jobs as it should be. Now is the time to cleanse the Republican party of those that are sending us down the road to socialism. The biggest reason they can come up with is the future appointees to the Supreme Court. McCain and the gang of 14 proves those thought processes wrong. McCain has reached across the isle far too many times, and accepted the liberal desires. He never reached across the isle to get the liberals to see things in a more conservative or even republican way. He is a sell out to the American people. If he really cared about the USA, Patriotism and the security of the country, he would not even have entered the race. For those of you who are so easily lead and unintelligent, who actually believe his "Straight Talk Express", need to listen a little more carefully. He is still telling you that he will do exactly as he has always done. He is who he is and will ruin not only the republican party but the country in his greedy, power seeking and arrogant excesive need for the unlimate power. I'll hold out hope that the RNC will stop pumping him up when they see a clear undoubted loss in November. If only the real predator propagandists who started showing "polls" that he was the only candidate that could beat Hillary could be exposed for the liberals they are! Their same head to heads now are showing Clinton winning over McCain by a small margin, but the best laugh of all is look at his head to head against Obama. HaHaHaHa

Rush, Shaun, and Laura
Rush, Shaun, and Laura have one thing in common with McCain; that is, they all have monumental egos and sense of self and purpose and power. McCain, for all his faults, also has the innate desire to selflessly serve. Rush, Shaun and Laura have the innate ability and desire to entertain and enjoy substantial compensation for their antics.

Party over Country?
It would appear that the concern over the structure of the GOP is more important than the state of the union. I hear people talk about how McCain will change the party and they would rather vote for Clinton than McCain. Remember Nixon? His brand of moderate to liberal conservatism was replaced practically overnight.
Parties can be changed easily as we have seen, but once the beauracratic machinery of socialism is put into place, it's here to stay. Most of FDR's socilist programs are still in place and aren't going anywhere without a major revolution to displace them. If you thought FDR was bad, a vote for either of the Democrat nominees will have you thinking his programs were minor blips.

I have an idea for a bumper sticker:

CLINTON/PUTIN 2008

The Elephant Is a RINO
Rich Galen is a mind-numbed apparatchick Republican. Forget principles, just vote for the candidate with an R after his or her name.

I've been a Republican all my life but I don't see a Republican when I look at McCain. I see Rockefeller and Jerry Ford--RINOs all; losers all.

Conservative talk show hosts like Rush, Sean, and Laura are the best thing to happen to the GOP. Indeed, Rush was instrumental in the Republicans winning the U.S. House after 40 years. In fact he was named an honorary member of that House majority. Rich Galen, of all people, should be aware of that.

It seems to me some Republicans are happy with being the minority and like Jerry Ford are content with just the scraps thrown to them by the Democrats. They want us to vote for John McCain who betrayed us on tax cuts, McCain-Feingold, and immigration. And who would impose staggering costs on American industry to stop a mythical global warming. His election would be a hollow victory for Republicans and a P.R. disaster as far as attracting new conservative voters. We would hear the sorry refrain: "There's no difference between the two parties."

The Republican leadership should have got the message by now. I throw their fake survey, money-raising fund letters in the garbage. Rush, Sean, and Laura give us information, entertainment, and humor and that's more than we get from Washington, D.C., Republicans.

GOP, wake up! We can't win elections with nominees whose greatest asset is that they're next in line!

Military RINOs...

I never hear these 3 Amigos bashing the Military men and women who voted heavily for McCain?

Are they not Republican enough for Rush, too liberal for Hannity?

I guess they don't think much of our troops in real life.

Before I go out 'n clean the pool - - -
One should remember that John McCain did not support the Bush Tax-Cuts; voted against ‘em TWICE !!! And, those tax-cuts bring in so much more "revenue" to the government for it to waste -- pathetic!
Anyway, back to McCain, despite semantics/denials, he's very weak on the Amnesty issue and Illegal Aliens (wanted to give Social Security credits to Illegals); is VERY weak on the car/Café standards and on Global Warming - - he doesn’t want drilling in ANWR (he called it like drilling in the Grand Canyon?). Then, aside from the disastrous McCain-Feingold law which infringes on our Freedom-of-Speech, he’s far too cozy with Ted Kennedy and even Hillary Clinton, pandering to too many left-wing issues, like allowing “criminal” trials for terrorists at Guantanamo (with full access to intelligence files); didn’t want “waterboarding” either, even when our national security is at stake. The Senator who was a co-founder of the Gang of 14 that could have stopped the filibustering of Supreme Court nominees... was one of the Keating Five, and finished fifth-from-the-bottom at the Naval Academy - - - and, lest we forget, was very strongly considered as John Kerry’s Veep candidate?!?

Part/the second:
Simply, I don't trust him because he thinks he's "above" the people - - so self-righteous, a dichotomy; he believes in a strong national defense...EXCEPT at the border. In other words, he opposed his party’s conservative consensus, so those talk-show guys (I used to be one in an earlier life; also a veteran who has paid LOTSA taxes!) are certainly within their rights -- I refuse to bend over and kiss my own butt (much less HIS!) and can’t/won't vote for him - - nor the demented Democrats either. They're socialist/Marxists, period.
That said, I find it difficult to believe the utter, gross ignorance of the electorate! The "social" conservative "evangelicals" backing a Liberal-Lite like the supercilious Mike Huckabee? That might be a hoot if it were not so tragic -- how dumb can they be?!?
That said, two quotations for you to consider: "The most grasping of all politicians is the war veteran." H.L Mencken. Annnd, “Any law named after a person is bad law” (can you say "McCain-Feingold" etc..?).
And finally, I voted Perot in '92 rather than Bill or Bush-the-Elder, and have written-in others when the candidates were lacking. But, this year, there doesn't even seem to be anyone to write in! So very sad.....
In all probability, my wife (a college professor who made it in the Real World before being asked to teach, armed with Ph.D. and MBA, plus another Masters in Logistics) and I will venture South to Costa Rica or the Urca neighborhood of Rio de Janeiro in a year or two -- this in order to escape watching the further demise of our once great country - as it flushes itself down the toilet.
Now, if you'll pardon me, I think I want to puke.
Then I'll clean the pool....

Rush, Sean, and Laura
Gosh, what a surprise: more lecturing from the
self-righteous mushy middle. We can think for
ourselves, thank you very much. Rush, Sean and
Laura,(don't forget Ann) were merely voicing
what we all felt: they weren't leading us.
I'm still mystified what's so Republican about
trashing our Constitution, caving in on "global
warming"(happpy 20th anniversary on that farce),
more gun control, and trashing our economy.
All of these things were the PERMANENT kiss of
death for England's Conservatives. Now you are
on the same track. You can stop sneering now.
( Oh, and England is held politcal hostage by
their unassimilated immigrants).

Hobson's (no real) choices
Our electoral process is strange and limiting; if you cannot raise a lot of $, you cannot prevail. Most listen too much to prevailing wisdom: the "major candidates." Oddly, we are down to 3 sitting senators-- we have elected only 2 EVER; we normally send someone from "outside Washington." Though many initially ran as Rep., only a few had a chance in our system. What initially derailed McAmnesty WAS amnesty, yet he ends up the nominee! Many who voted for him in a divided field cited "electability" because that's what they HEARD on TV. Thus, in their zeal to stop Shrillary, they chose a guy whose values they did not like (after they put lipstick on that pig)! WHY?!

Because he SAID he would build the wall, and artfully spooked them with fears of terrorism... that is an disingenuous false promise and fear of nothing really to fear. The REAL threat to America is flooding across the damm border, and Amnesty Juan WELCOMES THEM! Like Presidente Jorge Bush, he made a faustian deal for Hispanic support, but half of the LEGAL Hispanics voted for tough new sanctions AGAINST ILLEGALS in Az.! Guess what-- those tough new laws took effect Jan. 1, and ILLEGALS are packing up and going back to Mexico! The message we send to ILLEGALS is CRITICAL! Today's modern service economy NEEDS EDUCATED, skilled LEGAL immigrants, NOT the tsunami of welfare-seekers-in-waiting from the south. They permeate social pathologies like a cancer, inexorably destroying the host. The left will make them voters long B4 they are citizens, and we will morph ineluctably into a monster entitlement welfare state and third world barrio; they will bring their myriad relatives in, and make us precisely what they have tried to flee from.

Rush the 3rd leg?

Swaggart, Craig, and ...?

Throw the perverts out!

Enough of trash-talking Liberals pretending to be Conservatives. What's the difference between Rush's sex-talk and Air Amerika's drug-talk?

Rush listeners should spend a couple weeks listening to Dennis Prager. The difference between a social-conservative Prager and a social-liberal Rush is day and night. You'll find Rush is the dark part.

Galen's right.
Had Rush, Sean, and Laura, with their millions of listeners, gotten on board the Romney train early on we wouldn't be stuck with McCain now. They were holding their cards close to the vest in hopes that Thompson would materialize. He didn't, and when Giuliani appeared to be lost in a sea of failed political strategy, the big 3 were lost too. And so here we are - the true conservatives - left to ponder the future with McCain. We have no option other than to hold our collective noses and pull the lever for McCain in November. The alternative, a President Obama/Clinton, is too scary to contemplate.

The Talking Heads and Romney
I am sick of the Talking Heads trying to jam Romney down my throat. I can't understand how they found him such a perfect conservative, when he was hyper-liberal just over two years ago.

I don't appreciate them calling him a Christian, as I am a Christian who has done extensive reading of the BOM, the Journals of Discourses, the Mormon Doctrine, and more LDS publications. I think Mormonism is a cult that tries to bastardize my religion. There are very specific comments bashing my faith. But for space, I would list them. Just tell the Talking Heads that my Bible does not say "To be continued" at the end and they should stay out of religion if they have not read the Bible, studied their own religion, and studied the "deeply held" religious convictions of the person they push for President.

I can live without the Talking Heads. If they turn many more people like me off, they will find they cannot live without me. They are overexposed and undereducated.

Pamela
Baton Rouge, Louisiana

Mike Huckabee At CPAC
Wasn't that a great speech by Mike Huckabee at CPAC. Wasn't it, Fox News. Oh!, what's that? Fox News watchers didn't see it! Do you mean the Mitt Romney Propaganda Network didn't show it! Fair and balanced my *ss.

Now we know. Fox News is no longer a news network they are a plane and simple propaganda machine!

JimM..

A nation without conscience... FOX News is a profit machine. They slant quite a few stories and ignore others. One thing is for sure... they are very turned-off by anyone who is "Too Christian". I guess Hannity realized Mitt was a bigger believer in cash than in Christ.

The Liberals are on the mark... Reagan is gone from much of the Party.

Cash-Conservatives are running the show. Value-voters are considered backward and ignorant.

McCain may just remember America before liberal filth took hold. Hope he can show us the way back to humility.

Rush,Sean, and Laura
208 judicial appointments waiting while the Dems hold them up...this is a talking point in support of John McCain? How many were waiting in the spring of 2005? If the Dems and their obstructionist tactics had been stopped dead in their tracks back in the spring of 2005 (when they were the MINORITY PARTY in the Senate, if you recall)- you would not have to be "concerned" about judicial appointments being held up. Who was it who enabled and emboldened them to continue in their strategy? How stupid do you think we are?

Carlos
Carlos as a retired Criminal Investigator who worked mainly in the Child Sexual Abuse field as well as Rape and other sex crimes you strike me as quite knowledgeable in what clues may lead to the discovery of a sexual pervert. May I ask how you acquired such expertise ??? From a text book, practical application, or are you just jealous because Rush may be getting more action than you ???
I am not a Rush fan but do listen to him on ocassion on the car radio when traveling because he is on so many stations and I will tell you that I arrested and incarcerated many sex crazed Wackos and I for one have never heard anything spoken by Rush that in the slightes aroused my suspicious mind.
I guess you don't mind Getting Down & Dirty Carlos !!!

Carlos
Carlos as a retired Criminal Investigator who worked mainly in the Child Sexual Abuse field as well as Rape and other sex crimes you strike me as quite knowledgeable in what clues may lead to the discovery of a sexual pervert. May I ask how you acquired such expertise ??? From a text book, practical application, or are you just jealous because Rush may be getting more action than you ???
I am not a Rush fan but do listen to him on ocassion on the car radio when traveling because he is on so many stations and I will tell you that I arrested and incarcerated many sex crazed Wackos and I for one have never heard anything spoken by Rush that in the slightes aroused my suspicious mind.
I guess you don't mind Getting Down & Dirty Carlos !!!

Bottom
Of the barrel, that is.
When this election cycle began (a year early) and we got the first list of potential presidential candidates, I did a little mental excersize and listed them in order (after visiting their websites and reading their mission statements).
JM was at the bottom.
He never rose any higher.
So now I'm faced with the prospect of the worst of the crowd being selected by my party to represent me, and am being told that selling out my principles is the only thing that can avert disaster(AGAIN).
Enough is enough.
I will not contribute to the further blurring of my liberty.
I would rather have armed insurrection than swallow what McCain would have me swallow.
I prefer to die on my feet, not my knees.
If mainstream republicans insist that a McCain vote is either honorable or ethical, then they are neither, and deserve to lose until they get replaced by men of principle who understand that being bi-partisan is politically meaningless- when you are talking about the rape of a populace.

moderate mark, honey
Mr. Frost covered it well in regards to issues but here is a post that I put on another column:

Hey you crazy Mods
Instead of calling us babies and telling us to grow up, please, provide us information that shows that each year since 1994, the Republican party has either stayed as conservative or gotten MORE conservative. Have we gotten stronger or weaker as each year goes by. Please point out all our strong conservative leaders who stick to their guns on the major issues.

Let's see if you're a conservative:

Do you believe global warming is man-made and, if so, can we stop it? How?

Should we overturn Roe v. Wade?

Should we look the other way on undocumented workers? (this is a trick question)

When should the Fence be built?

What is the raison d'etre for businesses in America?

How much profit should a company be allowed to make?

Should Americans be own SUVs and Hummers?

Gay marriage anyone?

Should we study baby stem cells?

Are the Democrats afraid of us?

How often should we "reach across the aisle?"

Is waterboarding, when not done by a Kennedy, okay to use for interrogation?

Name three laws or inititives that Dem/libs have passed since 1964 that are not harmful in the long run to the American family.

What is the shortest distance between two points?

There are many more questions but this should do for a start.

Now, MM, these are some issues. Discuss. And, btw, describing someone from an observation is not the same as an insult.




Il answer you Scarlet
The answer is simple where was you and the rest of these silver spoon "conservatives" when the 1 TRUE CONSERVATIVE Duncan Hunter was running?Guess Il have to answer that 1 too,Mr.Hunter is a TRUE American a MARINE!And being a snollygoster or i say "silver spoon" they NEVER had the GUTS to serve so they find ways to trash those that did (like McCain)to cover up being a gutless wonder they are.

Conservatives
I am a Republican of 45 years - longer than the "conservative movement" I keep reading the "principled" conservative statements and it has become very clear that Lincoln wouldn't have been conservative enough for you. In fact, nobody is - you haven't backed anyone; only complained about everyone and, now, the Republican nominee. I am a Republican. I will vote Republican. Either you are a Republican or your not. It is just that simple.

karoden...

I'm a ghetto dweller... grew up with scum, work with scum, helped prosecute scum, have scum in my family tree, and find psychopaths very easy to spot.

If your brother-in-law spoke like that... tell me you would send your children over for the weekend :)

Flag covered Caskets...

Can someone clue me in on why we don't show the military caskets coming off the transports?

I always thought what a great honor it was to see the flag covered caskets of our heros lined up for a 21 gun salute when they reached American soil.

Honoring those men like that was one of the reasons I joined the Marines. If had I died in battle, I would have wanted to have that honor.

Why is it taboo now?

Rich Galen: Saboteur of the FDT campaign
This is such a fine example of the extreme brazen arrogance of the GOP elite hierarchy. Galen should be hanging his head in shame for the absolute inept job he did advising FDT.

I suspect he was actually working for McCain all the while. Isolating Fred off on some obscure bus tours in Iowa and SCarolina. Taking him completely out of the picture where he could do no harm or campaign effectively. Giving McCain the opportunity to revitalize his campaign. I'm surprised Fred fell for it.

Its scoundrels like Galen who've steered "our" GOP off into the muddy bog its now stuck in. And then this insidious twerp wants to point the accusing finger at conservative talk radio?

I only fault Rush and Hannity for not going on a more aggressive attack against scum bags like Galen. Darvin Dowdy

Why doesn't Rush support McCain?
I am at a loss for why Rush, Sean, and the rest of the talk radio hosts hate McCain. It can't be because he supports big government. After all, Reagan, Bush I, and Bush II all supported big government and that didn't stop all the talk radio conservatives from supporting them. Gingrich was and is a big government conservative but he has their support. They claim to support Romney out of principle. But Romney raised taxes and spending as governor. He also instituted a fascist health care "reform".(Hilarycare). He didn't endorse a ballot proposition in 2002 to ABOLISH the state income tax.

peanuts
It's the global economy, stupid.


LysanderSpooner
Probably for the same reasons i don't. McCain's voting record and the causes/solutions he has espoused indicate a man with guiding principles far different from those i want to see in the WH. Reagan and the Bushes were elected on small record, but hopeful talk. Reagan paid off, the Bushes departed from their conservative promises. As for Romney, here again its a matter of desparate hope in my case. He's just on the border of what i can stomache. McCain is over the edge.

Continue to vote against the Huckster
PLEASE don't go to the polls and vote for the Huckster just to cast an anti-McCain protest vote. We don't need Tax Hike Mike's delegates at the GOP convention.

If you do wish to cast a protest vote, vote for Ron Paul. At least you'll be protesting in favor of smaller government, lower taxes, free speech (including political speech), and border security.

LysanderSpooner...

This is just what happens when draft-dodgers take over the Party. Cash over Character is their motto.

I love how they trumpeted Bush and his National Guard service... But completely write-off the service of a guy who spent years locked in a closet for God and Country.

McCain is what the Bush/Cheney team is not... a man who actually sacrificed for us, rather than sit home and rake in the profits.

The nation is voting for Character this time.

LysanderSpooner...I see that you...
Do not actually listen to ...Rush,Sean etc...
Otherwise you would know that they HAVE always criticised Bush...when he has strayed...
And prove also you have not been listening...
otherwise you would have heard the facts...
then made your own decision...
despite the MSM propaganda concerning Romney.
Try to do better next election Lys :)

What have you been doing for 10 years?
People who have been paying attention to politics for the past ten years don't need anyone to tell them who John McCain is. We're voting on the future, not what happened to him in Viet Nam 35 years ago, and all we have to go on is his recent record. We can't trust anything he says, he's already proven he'll lie and cheat to get whatever he wants. That's not my idea of "leadership" or "character."

He was also at the bottom of his class and Romney was at the top. It appears that Republicans are terrified of anyone with an IQ over 90, they want to vote for someone just like them, someone they'd like to have a beer with, not someone who can play three dimensional chess in this ever changing and dangerous world.

And by the way, get the Huck out of here. This bozo has done enough damage.

LysanderSpooner's Right
All of 'em, from Rush to Bush to McCain and Huck and Romney are all running dog liberals, differing only in what issues they side on and what virtues they want government to promote--at the expense of liberty.

"He does not keep 'protecting' you, by commanding you to bow down and serve him; by requiring you to do this, and forbidding you to do that; by robbing you of more money as often as he finds it for his interest or pleasure to do so; and by branding you as a rebel, a traitor, and an enemy to your country, and shooting you down without mercy, if you dispute his authority, or resist his demands. He is too much of a gentleman to be guilty of such impostures, and insults, and villanies as these. In short, he does not, in addition to robbing you, attempt to make you either his dupe or his slave."
--Lysander Spooner

To TheEngineer...
I'm still going to vote for Romney in our primary. He only *suspended* his campaign, so may still be on the ballot when it comes our way. If not, Ron Paul may get it, unless McCain announces Romney for VP. No Huckster, no problem.

lonestarblues
It's the global economy, stupid.

I hate to keep repeating myself, but...

Ron...

Goofy Rush did not spend 3 hours a day bashing Bush on the borders or anything else. He's a phony.

Veterans voted heavily for John McCain. Rush should honor their decision.

I'm sure there are plenty of troops in Iraq listening to Rush. I'm sure they're happy to hear what Rush thinks of their decision.

Rush owes our troops and John McCain an apology.

He is a thoughtless Social-Liberal.

Carlos - ''John keeps trying.''
--
Per Carlos, after repeating McCain's quotation abjuring the Republicanism of the man in whose seat in the Senate he's been squatting:

"That is called Humility. A Conservative Value. A sign of Honesty, Virtue, and Grace.

"John keeps trying. A sign of a Hero."


No, that's the sign of a psychopath.


"Superficially charming, psychopaths tend to make a good first impression on others and often strike observers as remarkably normal. Yet they are self-centered, dishonest and undependable, and at times they engage in irresponsible behavior for no apparent reason other than the sheer fun of it. Largely devoid of guilt, empathy and love, they have casual and callous interpersonal and romantic relationships. Psychopaths routinely offer excuses for their reckless and often outrageous actions, placing blame on others instead. They rarely learn from their mistakes or benefit from negative feedback, and they have difficulty inhibiting their impulses."

-- Lilienfeld and Arkowitz, *Scientific American Mind* (December 2007)


Sound like any "Maverick" we know?

--

TH readers complain about the gang of 14
because it preserved the judicial filibuster.

And, from what I understand, a lot of you are planning on staying home rather than voting for McCain, even if it means a Democratic DC. But make no mistake: A Democratic prez and congress will fill the benches with liberal judges--and since you all are conservatives, this is seriously what you want?

Your logic defies description. Like I said, sit it out if you want to--but if you do, knock off the stuff about the gang of 14. The shoe will be on the other foot--and they'll be the only thing standing between you and a liberal judiciary.


ModMark/Carlos...really now...be real
You know very well that the falg drapped coffins of our military heroes would be/have been exploited by the Liberals.
Sorry if you have been deprived of the opportunity this time around...
wait I have it...
Why not rally around pics of aborted fetuses...
plenty of them around these days! :)

Carlos...why do you expect...
Rush...or anyone else for that matter to spend the amount of time YOU think best on a topic! sheesh!
Rush, Hannity etc spend the time they want to spend on the topic they want...
Are you pi**ed that your emails have been ignored? :)

SJ Doc

Funny! Sounds more like Bill Clinton to me. Or my gambling brother-in-law.

And yes Mr. Liberal, I cannot believe Obama's run. I expected Hillary's "Union-ballot-printers" to do a better job. I cannot believe the Democrats didn't fall for Billy's crap.

Yet, Hillary is trying to buy the super-delegates... I won't count her out til' I see her melt.

jesus h. christ
I suppose you also believe the Holocaust was a hoax?

Ron

I'm saying he was pretty easy on Bush's open-borders. And now he's going to nail McCain to the cross?

They could at least admit they gave Bush a deck of free passes.

My Lord...Don't you know that...
Pictures are always taken at the scene of a murder? sheesh! :)

Carlos ...In your opion maybe...but
Their comments WERE enough to PI** me off! :)

J H C (4:41) I think you meant, ken..
As I have already answered your question :)

So typical, Rich...
If, prior to this opportunized attack and its dubious motives, you would have been actually LISTENING to any of these commentators, you would could have saved yourself from both appearing to be so uninformed and in tight lockstep with the entrenched political machinery. There are reasons why so many of us who hold independently derived, independently maintained conservative views look upon NOT ONLY THE MAINSTREAM PRESS but also their useful idiots, the Rockefeller Republican-biased wing of this party, with such disdain, and this article clearly exemplifies the gloating, ill-informed rhetoric we have to tolerate whenever a perceived opportunity arises...even when such an opportunity is merely a concoction of your over-worked imaginings.

JC...

I tune into Air Americ(k)a on occasion... But every time I do, the hosts are making juvenile cracks about smoking dope. Every time.

I can't believe the Democrats show support for legalizing drugs. Obviously these juveniles have never seen a shaking crack-baby. It's a real heartbreaker.

Carlos - ''Sounds more like Bill...''
--
"...Clinton to me. Or my gambling brother-in-law."

(When John McCain is - correctly - characterized as a psychopath.)

Interesting, isn't it? McCain is also known for his 14-hour stints at the craps tables in Las Vegas.

I think you've bought into the sort of presidential candidate who's the equivalent of heaving an anchor at a drowning man.


-----------------------
"There is a strutting self-righteousness about McCain that goes hand-in-hand with a nitroglycerin temper. He flatters himself that his colleagues in the Senate dislike him because he stands up for principle, while they sell their souls for pork. Not exactly. He is disliked because on many, many occasions he has been disrespectful, belligerent, and vulgar to those who differ with him."

-- Mona Charen



jesus h. christ ...sad to say...
Forensic doctors to ensure that they are not liable for...
aborted babies that live...
Proof of Death is needed...and must be documented

You need to change your tag...
since you know so little :)

jesus h. christ
You pro-abortionists claim that there's no evidence that life begins at conception. Yet when you see pictures of aborted fetuses, you claim they're fake. That puts you in a no-lose position.

You didn't answer my question. Do you also believe the Holocaust was a hoax?

Talk Radio Has Ruined This Election
Great article Rich. It's about time that someone pointed out that these phonies are destroying the conservative coalition.
Yesterday all the talk shows were in full meltdown mode. They just kept whining about Mccain and threatening that they would sit the election out.
It was some of the worst radio I've ever heard.
When you see how strong Huckabee and Mccain are showing, you know that talk radio is in big trouble. And they deserve it 100%. They tried to rewrite the definition of conservatism by telling us that Mitt Romney and Rudy Giuliani had more conservative records than Mike Huckabee. They tried to be deceptive and it didn't work.


Snowguy, fill in the blank....
The reason (reasons if you can....) I believe John McCain would apppoint conservative judges is:_______________.

JC
JC writes: "i personally know two women who had to make that choice"

Did you know... persons who write or type using a lower-cased "i" in reference to themselves, are considered to be afraid of responsibility according to Graphologists?

"i" means "me". You see yourself as small, helpless, and dependent upon a maternal figure.

I feel your pain sir. Really, i do.

So how have "u" been Carlos?
Couldn't resist. :D

Not a well thought out essay
Dear Mr. Galen,

Your polemic on Rush, Sean, and Laura was either not well thought out or you have no understanding of the success of talk radio. When you speak about talk radio you are speaking of millions of people who already believe what Rush, Sean, and Laura are espousing. Contrary to popular belief, we are not country bumpkins. On the bases of this essay most of us have an IQ that is higher than yours is.

Listeners of talk radio do not “follow” Rush, Sean, and Laura, but they do give voice to what their listeners already think and believe. The grassroots base, at this point in time, will not vote for McCain because we see little difference with him and the Democrat party no matter what Rush, Sean, and Laura espouse. We realize that this may cause some pain; nevertheless, there will be pain if McCain does indeed become President. Perhaps the pain that the country is about to face will have some benefits for the country after the disaster of liberal policies whither it is from the Democrats or from RINO McCain!

The past relationship that McCain has had with Ted Kennedy, Russ Feingold does not bode well with McCain’s Court appointments because Kennedy and Feingold sit on the Senate Judiciary Committee, along with McCain sycophant, and lap dog Lindsey Graham. Another David Souter or Anthony Kennedy is not acceptable! The Supreme Court was lost with the McCain lead “gang of fourteen.”

So let me caution you the more that you sound like Nixon-Rockefeller country club Republicans the more you will alienate the Conservative base. Instead of throwing insults at us perhaps supporters of and McCain himself will try to come up with ways to give us reason to support McCain. Give us some reason to trust him besides the “at least he is more conservative than the Democrats” argument which is not a very good argument!

Geez
Rich you idiot. Your part of that damn DC beltway establishment. When are you guys going to get the fact that Rush, Sean, Ann, and the rest speak for us in the grassroots conservative movement. We've had enough of taking one for the team. You RINOs have ran things long enough. We have the long term survival of the party at sake and I won't turn her over to Democrat/Rockefeller McCain. You won without us conservatives in the primaries. Fine. Lets see you do it again in the fall.

ModM, OldWColumbia
MM, your a mod and I'm not. We are on different sides. I'm not voting for McCain.

OldWColumbia, I guess you voted for McGovern and Carter? They were war heroes too. What does that have to do with the direction we think they will take the country? Sorry you're so bitter.

jesus h. christ

People who never capitalize anything are self-centered, rule-breakers.

They are generally of low mental capacity, yet messianic in nature. (really)

I guess Graphology does work after all.

Rich Galen writes too long
At the Conservative Political Action Conference (CPAC) yesterday, John McCain showed confidence and courage by standing before the very group which Rush, Sean, Laura and the rest have been attempting to agitate like a washing machine on steroids against him.

Why not shorten this piece? You could have made it much shorter by 1 simple statement. And it goes like this.
A bunch of RINO’s standing and Arse kissing the biggest RINO of them all. And WANNNNN, BOO HOO, not everyone like Rush will fall into line, BOO FREAKING HOO. End of story! When the dems get done with McQuack, people like you will be just like him, burnt toast! One star Arse kisser, just to keep the rating low

http://eclipptv.com/viewVideo.php?video_id=956&title=Vietn am_Veterans_Against_McCain&vpkey=62acaf320c

http://www.immigrationshumancost.org/text/crimevictims.htm l
Free Ramos and Compean
Write in a name folks, it is still a free country!



wobbiedachickensh!tBullsh!ter
Why do you waste our time with all that dribble? You are the sorriest person it has ever been my displeasure to meet, anywhere on the internet, well you hal doofus, TR, sophie. The only thing that makes you worse than them is you constant self admiration, and self blow up on your skills, because if you have actually done HALF of what you claim, you must be like 159 years old. You are 1-no conservative, 2-it's very doubtful you are even republican. You are in fact one of the biggest LIBS I have read here on TH. So please keep trying to convince Squeaky McPatches how great you are, because very, very few people here think you are little more than a stain on your daddy's underwear. You certainly could be the poster child for planned parent hood's argument for abortion.
HEY , wobbiedachickensh!tBullsh!ter YOU EVER ANSWER TAIL2LONG or Tinsldr2 .MIL ADDY YET? Didn't think so. Twit!
Here's your HERO
http://eclipptv.com/viewVideo.php?video_id=956&title=Vietn am_Veterans_Against_McCain&vpkey=62acaf320c

http://www.immigrationshumancost.org/text/crimevictims.htm l
Free Ramos and Compean
Write in a name folks, it is still a free country!

jesus h. christ...I would love to take..
your picture...as proof of my argument! :)

Jackie writes:
IMO you know NOTHING about today's republicans. Maybe you would like to go back to the way of FDR, because that’s what you will get in McQuack.
You want to vote republican, go do it. A lot of us are waiting for a "real" republican to show up. So far left in this race, I see nothing but Libs. A vote for McQuack is a vote for the dems. He or Huckary can NOT beat billary or Obam.

http://eclipptv.com/viewVideo.php?video_id=956&title=Vietn am_Veterans_Against_McCain&vpkey=62acaf320c

http://www.immigrationshumancost.org/text/crimevictims.htm l
Free Ramos and Compean
Write in a name folks, it is still a free country!